How a 7 Figure CEO Created Her Best Life & Business

In this episode:

Today we have such a beautiful guest on the show. Erin Hohnbaum, owner and CEO of E.Leigh’s Boutique, joins Christina to talk about creating the space and intention to allow the right friendships to find you. Friendships come in many forms and fashions, so stay open and stay curious. If you’re feeling sort of like a black sheep and wondering where you’re people are, this one’s for you!

Christina Lecuyer’s Bio:

Christina Lecuyer is a former Professional Golfer, a three-time reality television competitor, Confidence + Mindset Coach, Motivational Speaker, and Founder of Women with C.L.A.S.S. Mastermind, as well as Decide It’s Your Turn: Women’s Weekend. Christina’s mission in life is to empower people to fully live in their purpose, confidently and successfully!

Erin Hohnbaum’s Bio:

Erin Leigh Hohnbaum is the CEO, Owner and Founder of E.Leigh’s Contemporary Boutiques and Co-Founder of the women’s group, PowHer Players. In 2011, at the age of 26, Erin took a leap of faith and quit her full-time job in Public Relations to start an online accessories business.

After a year of traveling around the South setting up Pop-Up Shops and selling online, Erin opened her first brick and mortar E.Leigh’s location in Little Rock, Arkansas in 2012. Within a year and half later, she opened 2 additional E.Leigh’s locations. Now, 8 years later, E.Leigh’s is a multi-million dollar chain, with locations spanning Arkansas, Texas & Kentucky. E.Leigh’s currently employs over 100 women and men and was named the number 1 place to shop in Little Rock by Southern Living Magazine.

Erin has always been driven by a sense of helping women feel their absolute best, believing that when a woman feels her best, she becomes unstoppable. Erin presently lives in Little Rock, Arkansas with her husband, Jackson Farrow, and her two rescue dogs, Charlotte & Penny. Erin was selected as one of the Top 20 in their 20’s by Arkansas Business and a Woman to Watch by Soiree Magazine. She is committed to serving the communities surrounding her boutiques and presently serves on the Board of Directors for the Boys and Girls Clubs of Central Arkansas.

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Full Episode Transcript with Erin Hohnbaum:

Christina: We’re going to start this one because Erin and I are just sitting here going, “What the hell are we going to talk about?”

We thought we had so much to talk about the first step. We’re like, “Oh my gosh, this is going to be the best idea ever. We’re having lunch. We’re going to talk about all the things.”

And we’ve just spent literally over an hour talking about all the things.

Erin: I’ve been here an hour.

Christina: She’s been here an hour! Talking about all the things and then all of a sudden I’m like, “Okay, let’s record it. But wait, what are we going to talk about?” (Laughs)

Erin: We’ve got a sticky note, guys, so don’t be afraid. We have a full sticky note planned for you guys. So, hold on tight. Cause here we go.

For those of you that don’t know me. Hi, I’m Erin. I’m one of Christina’s best friends and I am excited to be here today. Thanks for hosting me.

Christina: Oh my gosh. We’re having lunch together. You’re hanging out at my house. There’s no video on, so we don’t have to look appropriate.

You look beautiful. I haven’t showered. But I think the thing that we wanted to talk about was all the things that we talk about when we get together for lunch and people are always wondering what the hell we talk about?

Erin: I think one of the questions that I’ve heard anytime I’ve done anything with any of your groups, Christina, is people ask about how to make friendships, and it’s like, “Where do you find them? How do you have them?”

You know, “What does it look like to have a high vibe friendship?”

And I think that one thing we’ve consistently said to each other is no matter what space we’re in, in life or business, first things first, we always show up authentically for each other, I think. And that’s what we’re going to do for you guys here today.

Christina: Yeah, girl! That’s exactly what we’re going to do today. It’s so interesting because I think that everyone always wonders, how do you get these friendships? How do you make these friendships? And like, let’s talk about it from the beginning. So how Erin and I organically met was so crazy.

So Erin, she’s one of my best friends, but she is the owner of E.Leigh’s Boutique. It’s a chain boutique across the Southern United States. And I was looking at a shirt or something like that, however many years ago online and I sent E.Leigh’s Boutique, the Instagram account. I sent them a DM and sure enough, the owner of the boutique happened to be on the other side
because you’re…

Erin: I think our social media manager was on vacation that week from what I remember.

Christina: Or someone was maybe fired.

Erin: Or someone left. For some reason I was on the Instagram page, checking the DMs, which any of you business owners out there know how that goes. If you lose someone or you have to make a quick change or vacation or whatever, if you’re in small business, you’re just making shit work all the time.

So that was me, but I saw Christina’s DM and I think I started following each other. Maybe we already followed you. I dunno. I was on E.Leigh’s page checking the DMs and I saw one of your stories and I’m like, “Hell yes. I love this” and I think I commented on it from the E.Leigh’s.

Christina: Yeah, I’m sure you did. Then we went back and forth. I’m like, “Oh, this is Erin, the owner of E.Leigh’s? Oh my gosh. This is amazing.

Erin: You’re like, who is this? (Laughs)

Christina: I’m like who is this person? Because I didn’t know much about the store in the beginning. And then we had kinda messaged back and forth and sure enough, we’re like, hey, let’s grab a cup of coffee. And you know, the rest is history. We’ve been married ever since. (Laughs)
Erin: It’s true. We had chicken tacos with you at Samantha’s.

Christina: Oh my gosh! That’s totally right. I thought our first date was a coffee shop. Remember that coffee shop that closed downtown?

Erin: Yes! Oh my gosh.

Christina: Oh, I know. What was it called? That was your favorite place. It was almost like a bike shop and a coffee shop all at the same time.

Erin: I love that place. They’re in Bentonville though. Oh, and Austin, Texas.

Christina: Oh, amazing. Well, I have so many clients and my assistant’s in Austin. So there you go. Meet your

Erin: Meteor Coffee. Shout out to Meteor. I love your coffee. RIP in Little Rock. Come back!

Christina: We love it. But anyway, so that’s how we met, but I truly believe that the universe always leads you to those people. And you know, something that I get all the time is people coming to me saying that they don’t have any high vibrational friends. They don’t have
people who think the same or on that same level who want the same things in life.

And there is a period of time in life, and I don’t know if you believe this to be true or not, but I always believe that there’s a period of time where you go from where you were to where you are now. And there’s this gap where you’re kind of alone. You’re kind of feeling like no
one else gets it. And so many people feel that way, but I want you to know that you are exactly where you need to be because the universe always brings those people into your life, perhaps through a DM of a clothing store in Conway, Arkansas.

Erin: It’s true. I think I went through that period and I know, Christina, you know, this about me. I was fortunate enough to grow up with a dad that introduced me to the likes of Jim Rohn and Tony Robbins and Louise Hay. And then I eventually found other students of course, in miracles, and all those very high vibe individuals.

So it was really in my twenties where I wasn’t talking about that with anyone besides my dad because I felt so strange and out of place. And didn’t really have friends that were into that kind of thing. But they do show up. I truly believe they do show up. Especially when you start feeling more secure in your own beliefs and your own convictions, and you’re able to express yourself
more confidently. I think people are attracted to that, don’t you think?

Christina: Oh my gosh, yes! A hundred percent. That is the reason why now you and I both have so many high vibrational friends. It’s people who think like us actually want to be around us, right? And then the people who don’t, the people who think we’re crazy are that
people who think, you know what I mean?

Erin: For the record, there’s a lot of people that think we’re crazy.

Christina: Oh 100% way more people think we’re crazy then we’re not.

Erin: Our husbands at some points do, but they love us anyway.

Christina: Exactly. My husband literally needed to get on the crazy train with me. But no, that’s a hundred percent the truth, right?
Now we have all these people around us because if you’re not a high vibrational person, people who are not very relational, literally probably would never want to hang out with us.

That was the thing that we were talking about is you and I, we never go for lunch or go for dinner or jump on the phone or go for a walk or whatever it is, to slam other people.

Erin: No, never.

Christina: Never!

Erin: Never. And it just brings my whole vibe down. I mean, there are situations where, of course you do have to bend, you do have to talk about certain situations before this. We had a conversation about an issue that I was having, where I just needed to vent to Christina and get her feedback. But I would never expect us to go to lunch and that be the focus.

We really focus on ourselves, I think in our own personal growth. I know we talked a lot about our marriages and personal health and just our entire journeys, not just business and not just hustling and not just making things happen, but truly our own self worth, our own confidence levels, taking care of ourselves.

I mean, that’s really, I think where we find the most joy in our relationship. Don’t you think?

Christina: Oh, 100%. I think it was interesting how this even came up, where I said, “Hey, just come over to the house and we’ll have a glass of sparkling wine”, but neither one of us wanted that today. So we’re on the sparkling water train today.

Erin: Isn’t this who sponsored the podcasts?

Christina: Yes, absolutely. Waterloo Water. They sponsored the podcast. They sponsor Decided It’s Your Turn, all the things. But no, how this came about. We just were sitting there and talking about all the things that made us so high vibrational and what made us leave our
lunch meeting and be so full after every single time we meet.

But the thing we were really talking about is how it’s not just business. You know, you are obviously a very successful seven figure business CEO. You have all of these stores. I do well in my business as well. Both of our husbands do really well, but the thing that sets us apart is the fact that we really create a life that we love, not just a business.

The day that this happened that we’re sitting there. It’s 12 o’clock. It was the first time. It was sunny. It was like it was a Wednesday hump day sitting at the country club. It was sunny.

And I said, I have nothing else this afternoon, I’m having a glass of rosé. And you’re like, “Oh, my God, get me one of those, too.” And it was all of a sudden in that moment that I’m just like, that is what we need to talk about. Not just creating a business, but creating a life. And that’s oftentimes what we were talking about.

Even today, you were talking about how you’re taking four days and you’re going to Cabo and you’re just completely checking out. However, you’ve just been hustling your ass off for however many weeks to get your store up in Fayetteville running again. So it’s both, but it’s creating a life that you actually like and love and enjoy, not just the hustle of the business. You are not striving for one more dollar. You’re striving for a life.

Erin: Well, and I just thought about this while you’re talking. I feel like neither one of us are striving to be rich. We’re striving to have a rich life. And I think that’s where push comes to shove.

And I think that especially in social media right now, you see so much where everything is about, like you just said, the dollar. Getting the next dollar and the next dollar. And eventually when you’re in that mindset of just push, push, push all the time and you don’t have time to focus on the things that truly matter – your relationships, your marriage, your family, your friendships, when you don’t have time to sit in that and really feel the gratitude and feel the love and ENJOY the life that you’ve hustled your ass off to build.

What’s left, you know, if you’re not able to enjoy that? So I think you and I are both so dedicated to living a rich, full life. Sure. I love abundance. I love things. I love nice things. I love nice vacations, all of those things. And I think that we both agree, yeah, we can have those things, but that doesn’t distract us from our main goal of living a full, joy filled life and being able to enjoy the small things, like a glass of rosé at the country club, on a Wednesday.

Christina: What is sunshine for the first time? It felt like forever. It was like the first day of spring. We’re like, “Oh my God, this is magic. This is magic.” But even this afternoon like after this podcast is over, it’s only what three o’clock in
the afternoon.

You told your office that I’m done for the rest of the day. I need a break. I’ve been working all week long. I had the same thing happen to me on Tuesday. I took nine hours of calls, which is completely unhealthy and I don’t need to do that again. And I know that about myself, but you know, then yesterday afternoon, I played golf.

Today we are recording this podcast and I’m going to go for a walk later on. You could literally put another store together. You can launch two more stores. You could go even heavier online. I could take on another three or four clients. I’m choosing not to because I’m choosing life over money.

I’m choosing life over the next kick of the hustle and saying, “Oh, I have 20 one-on-one clients right now instead of 15 one-on-one clients.” And I did the 20 one-on-one clients and with the masterminds, with all of the things, and it’s a lot, it’s so much. And you had your store in Dallas?

Erin: Yeah. We were in Texas for five years and I realized, I was like, “Whoa, what I’m getting out of these locations is not worth what I’m putting into them.”

And you know, really at the end of the day, aren’t we all just looking for more time. Time is such a valuable commodity.

And I think as I’m moving forward in my life, one thing that’s a distinct difference from when I first started E.Leigh’s is that bigger is not necessarily always better.

I think back to Jim Collins, when he’s in Good to Great, and he talks about how they’re studying all these massive, massive companies that are making hundreds of millions or billions of dollars a year. And he goes, “Really the best company in America is probably some $10 million company in the Midwest that none of us have ever heard of and none of us will ever find because they
don’t want to be found.”

They’re doing such good business and they’re at a great point where they don’t want to grow anymore. And he poses the question, would you rather own a hundred million dollar company at a 2% bottom line margin? Or would you rather run a $10 million company at a 20% bottom line margin?

Uh, give me the $10 million company at 20% margin. It’s the same bottom line! The only difference is you’re working a lot less for the $10 million company than you are the hundred million dollar company. And I think that in my twenties, I would have easily grabbed for the 100 million dollar company.

And now I’m like, eh, we’re doing pretty good. I live a great life that I love and it’s so fulfilling. And I get to work with people that I choose every single day.

How could I not be grateful for that? Even if it all goes down, like I’ve said this a million times, even if it all goes down in flames tomorrow after 10 years, it’s been a really great ride that I’m so happy with. Most of the time.

Anything you do is going to have pain points and you’re going to have frustration, and you’re going to have things to complain about but just living in that space of being really grateful for where you’re at. God, what more could we ask for?

Christina: Right. I love that. I actually am specifically thinking of like a few one-on-one clients of mine who’ve had these epiphanies lately. I’m thinking of one client that we know together. She’s a singer songwriter and sometimes I think about her life. And right now she’s not financially where she wants to be. She’s doing fine, but you know, not really exactly where she wants to be.

But I think about it, two weeks ago, she was playing golf at Pinehurst. This week, she’s got four shows. She’s got a really great marriage that she loves. Her attitude is so phenomenal.

And I know that last year, if she looked back at her life. She’d be like, Oh my gosh, I’m so much further than I was last year, and I know that five years from now, she’s going to be like, “Oh my gosh, I have all of these things. Why didn’t I just really relish in the moment that I’m at.”

And I’m exactly the same way, right? I remember when I was playing golf, if I would have looked back at some of those times and just took a second to stop and just be like, “Holy cow, this is pretty amazing.” I am literally playing on golf courses that most people would cut their left arm off for and I’m getting paid crazy amounts of money, what I believed was a crazy amount of money at the time. The sun is shining and yet, I didn’t think it was enough because A, B and C wasn’t happening, or I didn’t get my tour card or I didn’t get the next television show or all of the things.

And now I sometimes look back and I’m just like, Golly. If I had the mindset that I have now versus what I had back then. Oh my God. I would have just been rolling around like a pig in shit. Right? I literally was so excited about my life back then. I would’ve been so much more excited about my life back then.

So I think that that’s something that you can learn from us even though neither one of us are billionaires. I truly do believe we’re both so successful in our own right because we choose that. Because we choose to work hard. We choose the hustle, but we also choose life. We choose life.

And you know, you have a new baby this year.

Erin: Yes, little Georgie and he’s not so little.

Christina: He’s so freaking cute.

Erin: Literally so junkie.

Christina: And as a person who’s chosen not to have children. I’m going to do a podcast on that because people always ask me that question.

Erin: I think that’s a great podcast.

Christina: I really need to. Yeah. I really need to do that. But as a person who’s chosen not to have children, I believe that I’m allowed to say when friends of mine, you know, most people are just like, “Yeah, your kid is cute.” Every parent’s like, “Yeah, your kid’s cute.” Your kid is the cutest ever.

Erin: I feel like you have to say that.

Christina: I don’t! I just choose not to say it to other people, but like you and Devin, I’m like, “Oh my God, your child is beautiful.” I just love you girls so much.

Erin: I feel like you’d just feel that way no matter what, because you just love them.

Christina: Yeah. So maybe, but I do love my other girlfriends kids too, but your two children were born beautiful in the beginning.

Erin: Thank you.

Christina: You’re so welcome. I think the cool thing about you and you were talking to my mastermind this semester, and you were talking about how you have taken a different outlook to motherhood than some do.

And I absolutely loved when you said, you know what, he has a nanny, he has a night nanny. I am not there all the time, but when I’m there, I am so there. And when you said that, I think it was a game changer. And so obviously this is kind of going in a whole ‘nother direction, but I really could give two fucks. This is my podcast. I get to decide and hopefully people love it.

Well, hopefully if you’re a mom out there listening to this and you think that you’re always doing everything wrong and that there’s so much judgment. My God, that’s one of the reasons why I didn’t have children is because I don’t know if I can handle all that judgment. Y’all are so hard on yourselves, but you said something so beautiful. And I think that your approach to motherhood has been so cool. The fact that you are like, yes, he has all the things and I’m not there at all periods of time.

But when I am it is beautiful and magical, and I am a damn good mom.

Erin: First of all, I really truly believe that I’m an excellent mother.

Christina: Ahh!! That makes me so happy!

Erin: I do! I think I told Jackson the other day. I was like, I know for a fact I’m an excellent mother. Am I there every second of the day with him? Am I staying at home with him? No. But I do know that me staying at home with my child would not be the best mother for him. And I truly believe that.

I also have worked really hard to find a great nanny that adores him. And I know that he is in excellent hands when I’m not there. And it’s also given me new life and a new purpose in my business because when I show up to work, it’s in a different space.

And I think that there’s something really great about being a working parent in general, because it does give you this little extra zeal of how you show up in the workspace. And for me, while I’m at home with George I’m with George,
and when I’m at work, I am at work.

I’m making things happen. It’s incredible, guys. And Christina will tell you this. I think what took me four hours to do prior to George, I’m like no, two. I’m knocking it out and making a decision, moving on. No time for bullshit. I got to get home and give that boy a bath. But it’s been one of the most exhilarating journeys of my life.

And a couple of days before I gave birth to him, I told myself, I was like, you’re going to do what feels right for you as a mother. And you were not going to give a shit what anyone else thinks about it. And so for those out there that are struggling, I know I’ve had a few friends that have really struggled with postpartum depression.

And that is very real. And I think so much of it comes from A) exhaustion. And like you said, all the judgment. It’s just too much. You got to let yourself off the hook, but you know, I didn’t breastfeed. My baby is completely formula fed. Now, given, I am ordering a top of the line European formula, but, you know, I knew I couldn’t do everything perfectly.

You just can’t do it all perfectly. And for me, I wanted to be really happy. And I wanted to enjoy my time with him. And when we are together, I wanted to make sure that he has a mother that is in a super happy space mentally.

And I’m really proud of myself for how I’ve shown up for him as a mother. And I pray that I continue to show up as a mother like that for his entire life.

Christina: Oh my God. That is so, so good. And I think that thing that you said there, and whether you’re putting this in place for motherhood, you’re putting this in place for a business, friendship, relationship, whatever it is. You just decided. This podcast is all a matter of deciding and you decided that no matter what, you are going to enjoy the journey, you are not going to judge yourself and you’re just going to do whatever it takes to stay in that vibration.

And I just loved that because decision, faith and action. Those are the three things that I always preach in your decision was that no matter what, you were going to be a great mom and not judge yourself and not listen to what any fucking hater had to say. And whether you’re listening to this podcast for the confidence, the mindset or the business, or the motherhood or the relationship or whatever, all of the above, listening and knowing that you got to do you.

That is like the most important thing on the planet. I don’t regret for one second not having children. You have made the decision that you are not going to regret doing it your own way and not listening to all the other bullshit, whatever decision you make, you have to decide that that’s the decision.

And you’re going to show up from that decision and you can’t let anyone else literally pressure you into it. Like my God, do you know how many people have tried to pressure me into having children?

Erin: And I cannot stand that, FYI. If you want to really tick me off, asking people when they’re going to have kids, how many kids, if they’re going to have more kids. Nobody asked me if I’m going to have another child. I have a five month old, like, we’re not even there yet.

I’m waking up at 4:30 so that I can get a workout in. I don’t need to think about it. But that’s one of my pet peeves. So any of you women out there who have chosen not to have children, Hey. That’s awesome because I don’t think people should have kids unless they really want to have children. That’s just one of my pet peeves. I could probably run on about that for 10 minutes. So we won’t put your audience through
that, Christina.

Christina: I love it. And we can talk about that a whole ‘nother day. I’ll talk about that.

But no, I do think just hitting on that, the power of you deciding that no matter what you were going to do motherhood your own way is so powerful. And I think that that’s what you’ve done in your business as well. And that’s one of the reasons why it’s very successful, you know, your marriage too. I’m sure that your marriage is very different than most. You guys are both two very successful, Type A, high achieving people. And there’s a lot of things that you’ve had to decide.

Erin: A lot of moving parts. And Jackson and I, when we first got married, we knew that our marriage was not going to look like many, many of our friends’. And that’s totally fine.

Christina: Talk about your last name.

Erin: Oh yeah. My husband and I have different last names. Like Christina said, my husband has a different last name, he’s a physician. And I never had any interest in changing my last name ever. So when we first started dating, okay it wasn’t when we first started dating, we didn’t talk about that.

Christina: First date!

Erin: Maybe not, probably, I don’t know, seven or eight months into dating. I was like, oh, we were joking about marriage or something. I was like, Oh yeah, I’m not changing my last name. And he was of course totally fine with it. He didn’t care, you know, he’s like, great.

He’s like, “Well, I wouldn’t wanna change my last name either.” I was like, “well, there we go. There we go. Mutual respect.” But when we knew that our marriage wasn’t going to look like a lot of our friends’ and we were totally fine with it. And one thing that I’ve noticed in the way that our marriages versus other people’s is when we enter into those spaces really confidently, no one ever questions it because it’s just, oh, that’s just who they are as a couple, as a married couple, like, sure, it’s not the same as the way we live our lives. A lot of my friends stay at home. A lot of our couple friends stay at home.

More power to you. I think that’s great, if that makes you happy and it genuinely does in their relationship, do it. I would never tell someone you shouldn’t stay at home.

It’s just not what works for our relationship. And so we’ve really, truly just leaned into that. And I think that that’s part of deciding and committing, and it’s the same way, like you said, I’ve done with the business and I’ve done with motherhood is I really truly feel like I know what’s best for my life and I don’t allow other people to question that. There’s just no space for it.

So if they do question it, I’m very confident in letting them know that I know what’s best for my life and somehow, some way I’ve ended up here. So my choice couldn’t have been that bad. Right?

Christina: Oh my God. I love that so much. I think it’s so, so, so important because one thing that I kind of come back to here is the fact that not everyone is going to agree with your choices. You and I, we are very different, a lot of our choices.

Erin: Oh yeah, totally. But I respect you and your choices, and I’ve always felt like you respect me. And I think one thing for me and you, too, is that we know each other’s hearts and don’t you think that makes us better at seeing other people and understanding other people? Because it’s like, okay, well, I know Christina and I know her heart and even though we don’t see eye to eye on this, that’s okay.

Christina: Oh, can we all just get a praise Jesus, hallelujah, amen? Because it’s so true. I love you as a human.

Erin: Yeah!

Christina: We disagree on a few things and yet I know deep down in your heart, you’re such an amazing human. I love you. And I can love you for your differences, and I can love you for different opinions and I think where people come with resentment and unkindness and all the things is when they allow other people’s opinions to start affecting their own.

Erin: Yes. Yes.

Christina: You have not betrayed yourself to appease me. I have not betrayed myself to appease you. And I think that that’s what you’re talking about when you’re talking about you and Jackson and your marriage and all the things that other people do.

I think where the tension comes in for so many people is they believe they have to be doing a thing, right? So like your friends going “Erin, I cannot believe you’re not changing your last name. What do you mean you’re not changing your last name? Why wouldn’t you change your last name? Isn’t that going to bother your husband? Isn’t that a thing? But you are so confident in your decisions.

And I feel I’m very similar. I’m super confident in my decision. I’m like, “This is my decision. It is my decision. I understand that you have a different decision, but I’m going to have my decision and I’m not going to feel bad about having my decision.”

Erin: Yeah. You have to lean into it. And that doesn’t mean there isn’t space for other people or discussions or anything, but I think feeling confident in who you are knowing your core values and then when you do have great friendships, getting to know that person to their depths where you know their core values, you know their heart, like I talked about earlier.

And then when you feel confident in sharing who you are, and it creates a safe space, even though you might have differences, you know that no matter what you share with each other and it’s going to be met with respect because you do understand each other on a core level.

And I think, God, that’s where really a lot of great friendships bloom out of that, right? Out of that space. I think all this to say, is you’re looking for a friendship, a high vibe friendship. It’s just like everything else in life, just like a career, just like a marriage, just like a partnership, whatever it is. Nothing’s ever going to be exactly perfect. But you have to allow yourself to pull down all the guards, be able to talk real and openly about all the big things in your life. Show up for each other and let each other just be who they are, right?

Christina: Yeah. That’s so good. And try not to change them. And I think it does definitely always come back to self-confidence, you know, confidence is my thing.

And if you’re not confident in who you are and you deviate off that to appease six different people in six different friendships. That’s what becomes very difficult because then you don’t know who you are and you don’t know what you stand for. I can have different friends in different friend groups, but overall I’m the exact same person.

I may not speak the same and I may not act exactly the same, but my core of who I am is exactly the same. And I feel comfortable enough to say this is who I am, this is my belief. And hopefully you respect me enough. And hopefully you’re confident enough in yourself to be like, okay, cool. That’s what makes the world go around.

Two different people, I can respect you, you can respect me and we can still love each other. And we can still agree on like 90% of the things that we agree on are exactly the same things.

Erin: To that, this is a great point that I thought about while you’re talking. I don’t try to force certain relationships to be what they’re not made to be, right? I would not expect to have the same conversations that I’m having with

Christina, who we both know that we are on a similar path in life. We’re going for similar things, not necessarily similar goals, but like we have a similar attitude towards life. I don’t expect for other friends to be able to show up in the same way that Christina does for me.

But that doesn’t mean that I can’t have a good friendship with them. It’s just different. And I don’t expect for all of my friendships to be able to show up for me in a certain way. Sure. I do want all of my friendships to be happy and nice and fun and easy and I’d say positive, but I think it’s really important to remember in all friendships that they are not all equal, like different people can hold different spaces for you in your life. And I think that’s so important.

Christina: Bingo. And I think people a lot of times, they expect their spouse to be the person. Right? Yeah. She’s giving me the point here folks, because I’m not going to talk to Nathan about the same things that I’m going to talk to you.

I’m not going to talk to you about the same things that I talk to Nathan. And I think oftentimes people expect one person to hold this space for so many different topics.

Erin: And it’s not fair. It’s too much. A lot of times it’s too much to put on one person.

I learned that while Jackson and I were dating. I would share things with them and sometimes it was too much for him. I was like, Oh my gosh, mental note, like this is not great. He’s got his own stuff going on at work. I need to find a different person to share this with. But I think it’s too much to have all that in one person. It’s not fair.

I mean, I wouldn’t want someone to expect that with me, it’s too much to harbor. So just being respectful and honest about which friendship is great for which lane. I have certain friendships where I think the women are incredibly funny and they’re lighthearted and I love going to brunch with them.

And I love spending time with them, but I’m never going to sit down and have the same conversations that I’m having with Christina. And I just wouldn’t put that kind of level of pressure on them. And I think that when we’re looking for that, we just gotta keep that on the forefront is that just because someone isn’t your friend that’s like your motivator, your hustler, or your person that you’re bouncing ideas off with, doesn’t mean they can’t hold great space in your life.

Christina: Yeah. I love it. So, so good. We’re looking at our list of things to talk about, and I’ll be honest with you. I feel like we’ve hit them all.

Erin: We have! I’m really proud of us.

Christina: I’m proud of us, too. High five for us! Amazing! Oh my God. I have enjoyed this so much. I love you. And you guys E.Leigh’s Boutique. @E.Leigh’sBoutique on Instagram. I’m gonna put all the details in the show notes. You guys can go and look at that store. Erin probably doesn’t know this.

Well, no, she does know this. I am the shittiest shopper in the whole entire world. She does know this because I always ask her. I’m like, “Okay, is there somebody at the store who can help me shop?”

You got to have the right inventory. Oh my God. I have people I can go in there and be like, “Hi, I’m friends with Erin.”

And I know a lot of people say that, but I’m like, no, no, I’m actually friends with Erin. And I need you to help me shop. And that’s one of the reasons why I loved your story even before I met you, is because I can actually walk in and say, “Oh my gosh, okay. So I really need some help here.”

This is actually interesting. I’m definitely not the person who will spend the most money at your store, but I am the person who comes in, and will drop like a thousand dollars at one time. And then walk out because I’m only going to come in like once a quarter.

Erin: I was going to say once a season. Which that’s fine! I think that a lot of people shop like that.

And I think that’s great. They like to load up and they’re good. We’ve told them which outfits to pair with what. I know I get some texts sometimes from Christina. It’s like, “Can I wear this?” Sometimes it’s a yes. Sometimes it’s a no. You know, it’s fine. She’s really pretty. So that goes a long way

Christina: My husband has said that to me sometimes he’s like, you’re lucky you’re pretty, I’m like, “Fuck you, what if that goes away?” Oh, God, I hope not. Oh, that’s so funny. But yeah, no, her story is beautiful. I thank God for that story because that’s how I connected this friend.

Seriously, isn’t that amazing? So you will never know where your high vibe connection friendships will come from. Just be very intentional about putting yourself out in the universe what it is that you want, create the space for it.

I wouldn’t have had you in my life if I hadn’t have created the space to become the person I am today. And so for those of you who are out there, who are listening, going, “Gosh, how do I find a person like that?” Just continue to work on yourself. And the universe will provide a DM.

Erin: It could be a store owner near you, but for real, you know, I always say stay open, stay curious to life and be gentle with yourself. Just be gentle with yourself. Things have a way of showing up when you need them.

Christina: And that’s Erin and that’s it. I hope you loved it. Bye.