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Anything Goes! Christina is Interviewed by Her Coach

In this episode: 

This week Christina’s coach, Lacey Sites, gives us a thought-provoking, rapid-fire interview with Christina. We dive into values, goals, habits, self-care, all of the things! You don’t want to miss this one as Lacey is truly an incredible human being. Plus you’ll get a sneak peak of what Christina has lined up to roll out soon. Tune in and share this one with your friends! 

Christina Lecuyer’s Bio:

Christina Lecuyer is a former Professional Golfer, a three-time reality television competitor, Confidence + Mindset Coach, Motivational Speaker, and Founder of Women with C.L.A.S.S. Mastermind, as well as Decide It’s Your Turn: Women’s Weekend. Christina’s mission in life is to empower people to fully live in their purpose, confidently and successfully! 

Lacey Sites’s Bio:

Lacey Sites is a business mentor and success coach for high-performing women entrepreneurs. She has her M.S in mental health counseling and her M.B.A. She’s worked as a therapist and the director of a large non-profit. She’s also the proud owner of two successful online businesses, and the co-host of the Happy Thoughts Show. Having grown her own business to the multi-six figure mark in less than 16 months, Lacey has made it her mission to help other women build and grow their own service-based business that truly lights them up and gives them the personal and financial freedom as well as the impact they’ve always desired.

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Full Episode Transcript: Anything Goes! Christina Is Interviewed By Her Coach. 

Christina: Hey, y’all welcome back to the Decide It’s Your Turn podcast today. Like I said, you guys, this is going to be SO interesting because my coach, Lacey Sites, is actually going to interview me for the podcast today. This was actually her decision. 

We were on a coaching call and she’s like, “I think you should just have random people interview you; your assistant, your husband, and maybe even your coach.”

And I was like, “Okay. Fucking fantastic. Let’s book it.” 

So I’m super excited today because I think she’s going to ask questions that not everyone would typically ask and I’m a little nervous, but a little excited too. So welcome, Lacey!

Lacey: Oh my gosh. I’m so happy to be here. And I just have to say, the thing I love about you is that I know I can say that you would never say no. I would be like, “Oh, you should have random people interview. You like me and your assistant”, you would never be like, “Oh no. I wouldn’t do that.” You’re like, “Okay, great.” 

Christina: Do people tell you no? I really don’t think that there’s anything that you’ve probably ever said, a couple of times I’m like, “Oh, just do it my own way.” And I’ll take your suggestion and I’ll just do it my own way. But to like people ever tell you like, “Fuck that’s stupid.” 

Lacey: I don’t think like that stupid, but more like that’s scary or like, that’s uncomfortable. Do you know what I mean? I feel like that’s almost like not a filter for you. Or like it’s like a passing thought potentially, but it’s just not a filter you use to make decisions. 

Christina: Yeah. No, that’s super interesting. Yeah, because when you say it like that, I’m like, yep. That’s a hundred percent the truth. Like if, basically say it’s probably a good idea or a blessing and I’m like, Ooh, that might be scary. I’m like, okay, perfect. Let’s do that. That sounds amazing. 

Lacey: Yeah. Like there’s no hesitation there. And I think that’s so important. I think that that’s something I can share with your listeners from behind the scenes is, how you say you show up is really how you show up.

I know there’s so much in the online space sometimes like a lot of saying one thing, kind of being another behind the scenes. And that is not true for you at all. When you tell people to focus on their mindset and to decide and to be competent and take uncomfortable action. All of those of like you just do that so consistently. 

Christina: Yeah. Well thank you. Yeah. I think authenticity is just really important to me and I don’t really know why that quality is so important, but yeah, it truly is. And that’s one of the reasons why I like you too. For those who don’t know Lacey, definitely be sure to go follow her and look up her business A Lit Up Life.

Oh, she’s like booked so fucking solid, so good luck to ever get with her, but it does have these like little weekend classes that she’s doing. Weekend coaching seminars that you guys definitely, 100% need to check out. But besides that, I do think the cool thing about you and one of the things like I’m going to be interviewing Lacey for her podcast too, which is I think one of the cool things about you is you do have such a diverse amount of people that you work with. 

I loved how you did this, you do these cocktail hours, like once a month with all your clients and the first call, it was so interesting to me. I even sent you a message and it was like, “Holy fuck. I did not expect that.” 

And I don’t know what I expected, but I was like, your crowd is so diverse and what you and who they are and all the things. And, you know, even though not everyone is on the same exact track, one thing I like about you is that you push me to think differently than other people.

How I hired you, my past assistant who I really have so much to thank for, she just pointed me in your direction. I had absolutely no idea who you are. I looked at your website. I got on the call and boom, I sign basically the next day. It was like, I just have to trust my gut on that and so I really don’t know much about you now. We’ve been working together for over a year now. So now I feel like I do, but that’s one thing about you is that you probably would not have been traditionally a person that I would have chosen, and I don’t know what that means or what the traditional person is, but I just think it’s really, really cool cause you have pushed me outside of comfort zone box and I’m just so grateful. 

Lacey: I love you. And it is my pleasure. You are like the biggest joy to coach. It’s so, so, my gift. 

Christina: Yeah, because I never say fucking no, I’m like, yep. 

Lacey: Exactly. I’m going to just start saying like wild and crazy shit now and just see how far we can go.

Christina: Okay. So this podcast today is all about Lacey interviewing me. So I’m gonna turn it over to you and let’s see what random shit we can come up with that people don’t know that they want to know, or that you want to know about me that perhaps you don’t know. 

Lacey: Yeah. So the way I was thinking about this is that you’re so good at being really transparent and sharing your story.

And so I kind of wanted to bring questions that you probably just aren’t typically answering. So I want people to get to know you and kind of a different way. 

I have a list, but like, we’ll just see where it goes, you know? 

Christina: No, probably print it out. And so nice. Mine is like chicken scratch on fucking sticky notes. So there’s that. 

Lacey: It’s totally fine. All works. All roads lead to questions. So my first question is what was your first thought when you woke up today? 

Christina: When I woke up today? Number one, it’s really cold here. So I asked my husband to cuddle with me for five minutes before he got out of bed at 4:15, because he gets up super early.

And then my second thought always is gratitude. I literally list at least 10 things in my head minimum before my feet hit the ground, just so I can transform my mindset in that moment. And it doesn’t mean that 15 minutes outside of the bed that like, shit doesn’t happen. But in that exact moment, always gratitude before I get out of the bed.

Lacey: I think that’s so good for people to hear because they feel like that’s one of the cheesy things that we say, or you hear, but to hear it and practice, this is literally, “I don’t get out of bed until that.” 

And I’ve cultivated that as a habit. So probably your first thought when you wake up is more associated with and relate it to gratitude because you’ve just made it a habit over time. It’s not like it’s natural. Like all of us default there, right?

Christina: Exactly. Cause everyone thinks, “That must come naturally to you.” Fuck you it comes natural. It’s just that I’ve been doing it so long. I’ve created a habit of doing it.

Lacey: Totally. And then your brain literally wires for that. So you wake up and you’re like, “Oh, let me cuddle with my husband and let me list my gratitude”, but it’s like not default. It’s cultivating it. 

Christina: Totally. 

Lacey: So good. Okay. What are you most afraid of? 

Christina: Time. Time to me is really scary. I don’t want to run out of time. I don’t want to run out of time and it even makes me like, almost tear up. Cause I don’t want to run out of time with my friends, my family, my husband, my client. To me, that is the scariest thing. It’s not like I’m afraid of dying, cause I have my faith, but at the same time too, time to me is this scary.

I want to do so many things. There was a time in my life where I didn’t even know if I wanted to really live. It was like that low point. And now to me, it’s like, “Fuck, there’s so much to do.” I don’t want to waste time, but I love having no plans, but there’s also so many things, people, things, experiences, places, all the things.

Lacey: I love that. That’s so good. And I think it just kind of shows what transformation you can make that you can go from being, I mean, “I don’t even know if I want to use this time” to “there will never be enough!” I want to have all these experiences and live to the fullest. So I feel like that’s really helpful for people to hear.

Christina: Thank you. Yeah. It’s so true. 

Lacey: Okay. What do you want to accomplish by the end of this year? 

Christina: Mm, speaking of time, I feel like I’m on a really good track. You know, obviously we just released this podcast this year and we are working on something called the Decide It’s Your Turn Network, which I really haven’t talked to anyone besides you and my team and my husband about. It’s something coming in the pipeline by, I’m hoping by, spring-ish timeframe.

And then by the end of the year, my goal is to have 500 people in that. And that’s where I’m at. And if we accomplish that, or even if we get five, I feel like it’s a super big blessing. 

I always play the long game. So to me, it’s like, okay, this is the goal. Abso-fucking-lutely we have every sticky note we’re working towards it daily, BUT we also know that the world changes very rapidly and a lot of times and so that’s the goal by the end of the year. 

Every day I write in my five minute journal, I’m like, I just want to continue to like, be the exact same person that I’ve been yesterday and today. And, you know, just try to stay true to who I am and my beliefs and my path. 

But yeah, I have fucking huge goals. 

And for you, you know, one thing that you’ve told me to do this year, that it never even really crossed my mind because, I’m very honest. I don’t make quite $500,000 in my business and that’s always been, my goal is to make $500,000 in this business.

And you’re like, I want you to push it to a million this year. And I was like, “Dude, fuck, that’s like a big jump there, sister.” It’s interesting because like you said, you get granular in how that’s going to happen as opposed to going for like these big, massive goals. 

And so even though I’m not really money-motivated, I know that sounds stupid to some people because I do fucking love the opportunity and the time that money brings, it’s not really that big of a goal, but it also is that big of a goal, because I know I can be a big blessing when you have big things, you can be big blessings.

So, for me, it’s just by the end of the year, I’d like 500 people in the network. 

Lacey: I love that. And I think one thing that you mentioned that I would love for you to just talk about a little bit more, cause I think it is really hard to lock into if you haven’t done it as this idea of, my goal is 500 and if I get 5, I would feel really good.

Can you just explain that a little bit? Cause I think that from the perspective as a coach, that is one of the toughest places for people to really sink their teeth into, you know what I mean? 

Christina: Oh, totally. And I mean, I believe this to be true with the clients that I work with as well, you know?

For me, it’s like I just know if I show up with this goal and do all the things and I am playing the long game to where 500 is the goal but if I do what I’m supposed to do, take the action, do the hard, messy things, all of the things and five people is what I get to bless with this. 

I just have this faith that I’m like, okay, well, if that’s what it’s supposed to fucking be, then that’s what it’ll be, right? It goes back to Decide It’s Your Turn, my live event, a few years ago, three years ago. It was a fucking disaster. I pushed until the very last second and I didn’t have the exact mindset that I have now. It was more of a struggle, three years ago was a little different. Totally. 

But I will say that like the exact number that was supposed to be in that room was in that room. And I think that the exact number that’s supposed to be in this network is going to be in this network. 

Like, you know what? I just said, like the difference between half a million and a million, it’s like I have like this unwavering faith that if I’m supposed to be making 10 fucking million by the end of the year, it’ll fucking happen.

If I do my part, the universe will do its part. Like you said, if you get so attached to the 500, it’s kind of like, well, then every little thing fucking matters. So why don’t we just ask a million and then just fucking roll on and see what actually what happens?

And then if I get to 500 or if I get to 600, I’m like, “Oh wow, that’s amazing.” Or I get to 10 million, whatever it is. Right. I don’t really care what that looks like as long as I’m just kind of believing that it will happen. 

Lacey: I love that. It’s like you have faith in that bigger vision, so you don’t make the little things as important when you don’t have that grounded faith in the big vision, you’re going to make everything matter, right? 

Christina: Yeah. And I think that something that most people get stuck on and that’s why I preach long game, long game, long game is like, like this podcast, perfect example. On the launch week, I gave away a thousand bucks, over a thousand bucks, with the prizes, I did all the things like whatever. I don’t even really, honestly, I haven’t even looked at our statistics yet.

It didn’t fucking matter whether I had one person listening or 1 million people listening the first week, because I’m not going to shut this party down if a hundred people, you know what I mean? 

Lacey: Like, yes, totally. You weren’t like, “Oh, we only got a hundred listeners. Fuck it. Let’s cancel it out and do something else.”

Christina: And it’s the same thing with the network. It’s like, okay, cool, by the end of the year, if we only get five people in it, okay. Let’s see if we can get 500 the next year. I’m not shutting things down or I’m not like closing up shop or thinking I’m doing something wrong or not, you know, whatever.

Obviously you have to learn and pivot. And if I really only do get five and I work my ass off for six months, maybe I do have to pivot. Maybe I am doing something different maybe, but it doesn’t mean that I am a failure or I’m shutting it down if that doesn’t happen. I guess that’s what I’m trying to say.

Lacey: Totally. I love that. That’s so good. I think that’s so important to hear. So on that note, what is something that is really difficult for you? 

Christina: I’m working on not taking, because obviously in the business that I’m in, I take on everyone’s shit. And I’ve done this my whole entire life is that I’ve always been the person who has to fix everything and take everything on.

And I am working on it, like, yeah. The combination of mindset, therapy, friends, all the fucking things. Yeah. I feel like sometimes I just want to do so much for so many and I can’t do it all. And I have to give that up in some regards, because it’s just not going to happen. And the bigger you get, the more people that you have, I mean, I would love to fucking spend 18 hours a day with every person that I work with, but it just can’t fucking happen.

So I gotta have some, and I do have good boundaries, but I think for me, the hardest thing is just like letting it go and knowing that I can’t control it. 

Lacey: Totally. You still feel it, even if you have good boundaries, it doesn’t mean you don’t still carry some of the weight of that, right? 

Christina: Totally. For sure. 

Lacey: Like you can say I’m stopping at three or whatever. I know that’s like your drop dead time, right. 

Christina: Like, Oh my gosh. It’s 6:00. What the fuck. Are you okay? 

Lacey: Something has gone wrong. But you can say I’m stopping till three, but it doesn’t mean you don’t walk away and think about a client or take that with you or hold that energy, right?

Christina: Oh my God. That’s why I walk so much. Gosh, I put so many miles on so many tennis shoes because that’s all I do. People always say like, can you leave it at the door or whatever? And like, yes and no. I’m a human, I still have times where it’s really hard not to think about it when I lay in bed and not want to jump on my computer and do something.

But at the same time too, like, I know how to let it go a little bit. And I do have a lot of free space to change my energy and yeah. 

Lacey: Okay. What is something you love about yourself? 

Christina: That I do care so much, that I am authentic, that I am who I say I am. Like you said it in the beginning of this conversation, there’s so many fucking people on the internet.

It’s so disappointing when you meet them in person. You’re like, “Oh fuck you, you’re not even who would you say you are.” Now let’s flip the coin on this. There are so many people that your audience, my audience listens to that I know they are not who they show up to be on the internet.

However, I definitely do look at it. As I remember, there’s this one person who I consumed everything he put out, and then I found out he wasn’t the person that he put out. He didn’t live congruently with that. For a while I was pissed, but then I’m like, wait a minute, that content, what he put out into the universe, actually 100% served me whether he lived it or he created it or whatever the fuck, it doesn’t really matter for me. It was very helpful at the time. And I made a lot of changes on that. 

So even if let’s say if you meet me in person, you’re like, “Oh gosh, she’s not even close to the person that she is.” Hopefully what I’m putting out into the universe is helping someone, whether or not I was the person to like actually live at congruently.

It is nice though, when you do meet someone and you’re like, “Oh fuck, you are a good human. Yay!”

 

Lacey: Yes. I still agree with you. It’s like that saying, don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater kind of thing. Like there were so many good parts of that, but I think it just makes it so much fucking easier for you to show up because of that.

I always think about it in terms of how hard it must that be to be preaching something every day and then not living it. I just can’t imagine how hard that must be. I feel I’m not giving it a pass, but I’m just saying there’s compassion there too. That would be rough.

The reason it’s easy for you in many ways to run this business is because it is really congruent, right? 

Christina: Yeah totally. Exactly. Like you said, for me, it would be harder to have to like turn something on then to be my most authentic self. 

Lacey: Yep. Totally. I also really want to point out that I love that the thing that is most difficult for you is also part of the thing you love about yourself the most. I think that holding that dichotomy of both is really helpful where you’re like, this is what challenges me a lot and also this is something I really love about myself. I feel like that’s just a really helpful thing for people to hear, because sometimes we struggle to have both, it’s like all good, all bad, right? 

Christina: Totally. Yeah. There’s pluses and minuses to both of it, for sure. Like the fact that I am so outspoken, I remember being told as a kid that that wasn’t a good thing. Because I was so vocal, because I did have a strong personality. Think about how many times people use words with negative connotations as a woman, right?

Like, you are so intense. You’re so competitive. You’re so like all of the things and-

Lacey: Intimidating,

Christina: Intimidating. Oh yeah. They called me the intimidator in college and I could take that as like, “Oh God, maybe I need to be less intimidating”, but I’m like, “Whatever, fuck it.” People are intimidated by me and they’re shitting their pants when they get to play with me. Perfect. That works in my advantage, right? 

So it’s both, but it is interesting how we put these titles on ourselves and think of it as a negative one and someone else would think of it as a positive. 

Lacey: So I want to ask you a question about that then, I know that you have this whole journey you went through of feeling horrible and transforming how you feel in your life every day.

But what’s interesting is there is this thread of you were always this outspoken, confident person. What is the thing that really shifted for you? So much of your personality stayed the same, but like what actually changed for you? 

Christina: Yeah. I love it. It’s just the way I thought about it on the inside, right?

I was EXTREMELY confident outside. People were intimidated by me. In college. My college golf coach called me the intimidator. I remember exactly where I was on the exact golf course when he told me that and I was just like, I was so confused. I was like, “Are you serious?”

But I’m like, “Oh really? Oh, okay. Whatever.” And like, the initial reaction is, do you take that bad? Do you take that good, whatever the fuck. But my initial reaction is that at that time it was probably, “Oh my God. If they really knew.” Cause I didn’t feel  super confident. There were moments that I like, and that’s the thing, right?

I don’t want to say this whole 10, 12 year period of my life, where I was a bit of a mess, was all bad. Cause that’s a fucking lie. There were a lot of amazing, happy, great moments. But overall consensus is, I just didn’t like myself the way that I like myself now. And I’m not perfect. I mean, even today, I still struggled just like everyone else does. Whatever it may be. But overall, if I had to sit with myself in a quiet room, I’m good now. 

Lacey: Yeah. I think what’s so cool about that is you present almost exactly the same in many ways. It just feels so different. And I think we prioritize the way it looks so much versus the way it feels. So it’s so cool to be able to be like it probably doesn’t look that different to a lot of people, but it feels like I’m an entirely different human. 

Christina: Isn’t that so interesting too, because so many people care about the look.

Lacey: Oh, yeah.

Christina: I think about it. Our whole life, everything is about the look, right? How does the house, how does the car, how does the relationship, how did the kids, literally, you just want it to be like the storybook, like a Christmas card photo. 

You know what, perfect example – your wedding. It was more recently, you know what I mean? People say, I just want the perfect wedding and the perfect ring and the perfect – and I’m just like, y’all, like the perfect marriage is way more important than the perfect fucking photo. Like shoot, you’ve got your ass backwards priorities.

Lacey: Right. I can definitely, definitely sign that one because I had the perfect wedding the first time, not the perfect marriage. I had a totally different wedding this time and I feel so different already in the marriage. 

Christina: Yeah. It’s such a good analogy. 

Lacey: Okay. So if you could be famous for one thing, what would it be?

Christina: Oh, that’s such a good question. I don’t really know if I could be famous for one thing. It’s so cheesy, but I would say being helpful. It just sounds so like fucking cheesy. Yeah. I gotta know, what am I supposed to say? What does a person want to be famous for it?

See, the crazy part is, I think I have this weird perspective because I’ve been around a lot of fucking famous people in my life. 

Lacey: You’ve been on TV and you’ve dabbled in that arena.

Christina: Totally. I’ve been on TV, I’ve been around celebrities. I literally have celebrities, professional athletes, billionaires’ phone numbers in my phone. 

And I think for me, I don’t really have that starstruck type of situation now because I know some really shitty celebrities, but I also know some really amazing celebrities. So in my mind, I don’t really know and I feel like a lot of it is just fake bullshit that people make up. And a lot of people aren’t really happy. Like, yeah, it’s a weird deal. 

I know I don’t really want to be a celebrity. I’d like to be like a micro celebrity in the fact that people are like, Oh my God, I know her. And she’s like, fucking so nice or she’s so smart or she’s really helped me. Or she’s got a good marriage or she’s like a lot of fun or whatever that may be. So like, yeah. I don’t really know if I want to do that. 

Lacey: I love that. That’s such a good answer. Also, there’s one person that you did tell me you were starstruck around. 

Christina: Who? 

Lacey: No, no. Who’s my dad obsessed with? 

Christina: Oh my God. Arnold Palmer. Yay. That was a big one. Homer and Jack Nicholas. I was definitely more star struck by Arnold Palmer, which is weird, but yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Like, because he’s such an icon, right? Like, Oh my God. Yeah. 

Lacey: I showed my dad a picture of Christina and him and my dad was just like done. Like that’s mostly what I do in business but at that moment he was like, that is amazing. Like, I became cool to my dad in that moment. It was great. 

Christina: I mean, the one I have with David Berti or Jack Nicholas. Yeah. So yeah, I’ll send you those too. 

Lacey: Keep them coming. Let’s keep the cool streak going. 

Okay. So on that note, kind of similar but different, but if you could switch places with anyone for the day, who would it be?

Christina: These are such good questions. God, I hope my minor is so much low vibe. Okay, so if I could switch places with anyone for a day…

Lacey: I think this one’s really hard. I actually tried to think of my own answer when I was writing this. And I was like, I don’t fucking know. 

Christina: No, I would probably switch places with myself before fucking COVID where I was traveling the world and doing whatever the fuck it was whenever the fuck I wanted.

Lacey: Yeah, that’s a good one. And like, have even, uh, like, not that you weren’t appreciative then, but you would just have such a different appreciation.  

Christina: Oh! I’d be like kissing everyone, hugging all over people 

Lacey: Like kissing people in the grocery store. 

Christina: Exactly, trust me, you’re going to appreciate this in a year for that bitch.

Lacey: Good. Okay, so this is sort of a funny one, but I feel as we grow in business and as we make more money then money starts to put a magnifying glass on what’s important to us. Right? What is that, money is a magnifier, I think is the quote. 

So what do you spend your money on? What’s something that you value very highly? Like, for example, my husband, Kenny, sitting in a first class seat on an airplane is so important to him, but he would never spend a lot of money on a hotel, do you know what I mean? We just all have those things. Right? 

Christina: It’s so funny, the more we’ve become like more of friends as opposed to just clients. I want to know you a little bit more. And literally for the first eight months of our relationship, it was 100% business. And then one day we had more of a personal conversation, but I’ve come to find out that I’m much more like your husband than I am.

Lacey: You literally are. I always tell him that. I’m like, you have to meet because you guys are going to be besties. 

Christina: Yeah. For sure. I was like, yeah, I’ll meet him. Well before COVID I would have met him in Vegas for sure. And we would have hung.

 

Lacey: That’s on my vision board. So like we’re doing that.

Christina: Yeah. From what I hear, it’s definitely not even close to what it was. Yeah. It makes me very sad. Yeah. What I like to do with my money. I, 100% love to fly first class. I started doing that when clients started paying for it, when I was playing golf and then I was like, “Oh fuck that. I’m never sitting in the back again.” 

But yet I’m cheap when it comes to a lot of things. I feel like I just prioritize vacations. That’s funny. I would rather fly first class and stay in a fancy hotel because my whole thought process is I am not really in the hotel. However, my husband likes to be in the center of things.

So like the centers of downtown, because he likes to walk places in developments. And I always was like, “Well, it’s a hundred dollars cheaper if we don’t stay near downtown.” And he’s like, “I don’t care.” 

So we’ve had to learn to do that. I will spend a couple thousand dollars gambling on sports or playing money games with my guys at the country club. I’ll spend a ton of money on the golf stuff.

I’ll buy workout clothes for instance, at TJ Maxx, as opposed to Lulu Lemon, because I’m sweating in these. To me, it doesn’t matter. And for upkeep stuff, the only thing I always do is get my nails done and my hair done besides that. Oh, and Botox nailed it. Definitely. Don’t fucking forget the Botox, but those three. I don’t spend a ton of money on everything else, but it definitely does even itself out. 

Lacey: Yeah. No, I think that’s so fun to hear though, because don’t you always wonder that about people. Like, I’m always like…

Christina: Oh, that’s my question for you. I really want to know where you spend your money for fucking sure.  

Lacey: I always wonder about that. Shoot. What were we just talking about? Oh, I think what’s so interesting about what you just said is you spend on  experiences. 

Christina: Totally. 

Lacey: You’re not ever like the handbag person or the whatever, you’re for sure the experience. It’s not even about the gambling. It’s like the fun of that experience. 

Christina: 100% I call it entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It’s the entertainment or interaction with people. There’s certain families that are like, “Oh, we spend a hundred dollars or 500 a day. And we have to hit the criteria and check the box” and I’m like, I would much rather receive a, “Hey, let’s go for lunch” then here’s a bag. I just don’t care about stuff. 

I care about experiences, but my love language for sure is quality time. Like there’s no doubt about it. I don’t even think any of the other ones come even remotely close. So for me, it’s more about the time, the experience than it is for any possessions. Yeah. 

Lacey: So good. I love that. So the next question is, Oh, my God. I have so many. 

Christina: I’m going to have to not ask you a ton too. 

Lacey: Okay. What is the most important choice you’ve had to make in your life or business? 

Christina: Business for sure. I think my initial investment of hiring a coach, maybe, I think it was like four or five years ago, to learn how to do a mastermind and really get clear on what that was. And it was the biggest investment I’d ever made. It was like 15, 20 that I think it was like close to $20,000, $18,000 for like 90 days. It was like fucking a shit ton of money. 

Lacey: Oh yeah, damn. 

Christina: Yeah, it was. Yeah. But it ended up being not the greatest experienced business-wise, but I learned so much and I don’t regret a dime of that because it got me to where I am now. Um, I’m always obviously consistently investing in myself, but I do think that, for me, it was just deciding to actually do the coaching mastermind in the beginning. 

I didn’t really know a hundred percent what it was going to look like, but I knew that I had to do something because for so many years I wrote it. It was like, I want to help people go from where I was to where I am now.

I just need to do it every year. And finally, I got to the point that I was like, I looked at it for three years in a journal and I was like, “Okay, you dumbass, you’ve done none of this. Like, you could have literally been doing this. What are you fucking waiting for?” I’m sure you experienced this with your clients as well.

It’s like what every one of my clients worries about in the beginning. Is it going to work? I’m so scared. What are people gonna say? Like all the things, but again, that’s the reason why this podcast is called Decide It’s Your Turn. The minute I decided, and then I started taking some action, you know, fast forward. Here we are. But for me, the scariest part was like, basically leaving golf to do this. And I didn’t have to leave golf a hundred percent in the beginning. I’ve talked about this before as well, but I had my identity so wrapped up in golf that leaving that identity was very difficult.

Lacey: Yeah. Oh my God. I think so much is probably wrapped up too in like, what would everyone in that world think about it and all of those questions that come up, right? 

Christina: Yeah. I mean, the things that always come up, who are you to do that? Why would you like, or why would you ever walk away from golf? Why would you walk away from the fucking…People think that playing professional golf, especially or playing any professional sport in the beginning is like, you’re basically flying on private jets and like rockin’ all the things. And I’m like, you are so fucking confused. I was living in people’s basements, like eating lunch in my rental car, like traveling the country.

And if I was lucky, it was a middle-class sofa seat or it wasn’t like six hours in a car from El Paso, Texas to Amarillo, Texas, like, fuck you. That’s not all the glamour that you expected. 

Lacey: It’s not  like the first class flights. 

Christina: Uh, no. 

Lacey: Okay. What is the best thing that has ever happened to you?

Christina: Gosh, there’s so many good things, but you know, I really do look at my marriage is probably one of the…

Lacey: I was just going to say, Nathan’s going to be like, come on. 

Christina: My marriage is really the most important thing to me. It really honestly is. I think finding my version of faith. I think my marriage is the best thing. Moving to Arkansas in 2002, when I came to play college golf from Canada. It’s interesting. I looked at that for the first year as like one of the shittiest, hardest things ever. And it ended up being the best experience of my life. I would live nowhere else now. And I just think about like, Holy cow, I’m so grateful to now live in the US and be an American. And yeah. So I’m super grateful. 

Lacey: That’s so good. I think it’s also good because it’s one of those things where, it’s what you said earlier about playing the long game. Like it took a year for that to feel good and then much longer for you to even be able to frame that up as like, this was the best thing. And marriage is just like that too. 

Christina: 100% and our marriage is like no different, right? And there’s always bumps in the road, but overall, long-term by far the best thing ever. 

Lacey: So good. If there was one law that everyone on social media had to follow, what would you want it to be?

Christina: They got to fucking be real. And for every person out there who tells someone how much they make and how much they can make other persons, I think everyone needs to put their fucking tax returns out there. One of the girls in New York posted something the other day, and then one of my clients commented on it. So I saw it and then I commented again and cause people are like, Oh, I can get you like six figures in six and yes, it happens for some people, but I’m like, I think we all need to just put our tax returns out there and let’s just weed out the herd, shall we? I ain’t fucking lying about my shit. So I’m happy to do it. I’ll just let you out. But I do have a lot of deep appreciation, so I don’t pay a ton of taxes.

Lacey: I do think it’s really interesting too, because I think there’s such a line there we’re like, of course we’re all going to be marketing and of course we’re all gonna share the highlights and things like that. 

There’s such a line that gets blurred in our space where it becomes so much bigger than, am I just sharing the win of my day versus am I straight up lying?

Christina: Totally. A hundred percent. You can say you had a $50,000 launch. Okay. Awesome. Are you bringing in one more dollar for the next six months? Because if you’re not, I think you need to put a caveat – I am like literally making, you know, not even $10,000 a month or whatever it is, because I think so many people are like, “Oh, I just launched. It was $50,000 and I can help you do it.” I’m like, bitch, how long did that take? And how long have you been working? What is your audience? Are they paid for? What are you doing? 

You have encouraged me to share more of my client wins. Cause I don’t even look at that as much cause I’m just like, okay, the transformation is so big and it’s both like, you can do both and you can be real and you can be honest and you can share that you’re making that kind of money, but like, can we at least preface it as, “Okay. I’ve been in the business for four years. I have this client I’ve been working on it for this long. This is the strategy behind it.” And for all those people who do Facebook ads and stuff like that, people forget to say that, yeah, they made a hundred thousand dollars on Facebook ads, but they spent $87,500 of expenses.

Like, what are your expenses? I don’t want to be the person that ever tells someone, I can get you this in 90 days. No question. Just because I’ve done it. And totally that to me is the hard part. 

Lacey: It’s so funny, because, again, to that point of you’re so congruent. So I do these things called client files, where I basically do an anonymous case study of my clients and I did one with Christina. And I always send it to the client first to adjust, say to them, “Hey, you’re the expert in this, make sure I got my stats and numbers right.” Christina wrote me back and she was like, “Everything you’re saying is true, but I would like for you to say this piece differently and this piece differently, just so we make sure to be clear.” Like she really cares. It was fucking anonymous but you care so much that it’s like framed in a way that like fully adds the context which is important.

Christina: Yeah. Well, thank you. And yeah, and I know it’s anonymous, but I was reading it if I read, “Oh yeah, she made $70,000 this month or whatever.” And yeah, that’s fucking right. Awesome. BUT let’s just be a little bit more transparent that it didn’t happen at the snap of a finger and it’s not going to happen every month after that.

Lacey: Yep. So good. Um, okay. So can you give us an example of a time where you helped someone that you’ve never even met? 

Christina: Oh God, I do that all the time. Help someone I’ve never met. Yeah. Who the fuck doesn’t do that? Like, come on. I think we should all do that. I think they should all be kind – 

Lacey: I agree, but I think that you value that higher than some people.

Christina: I think I’ll try to do it every day. What was I doing? Oh, the other day, Nathan and I were at a restaurant and there’s this man at the end of the table and it definitely looked like he was perhaps homeless. He definitely was not doing super well. He had a bowl of soup and like 9,000 crackers, you know what I mean? Like just didn’t look like he was doing too well. So, you know, taking care of his soup or whatever, things that. I mean, I’m happy to do those all the time. Um, what else? Gosh, you would think that you help someone pick something up or like. Put away a grocery cart or something. A little old lady did that for me the other day and I’m telling you, I have never felt like I literally just wanted to like shower her with gifts, like she’s 80 and she’s like, “Can I put your card up?” I was like, “Oh my gosh, that’s the best thing ever!” 

Lacey: Oh, I love that. And I think even with your content, you’re doing that all the time too, right? I think this podcast is doing that. 

Christina: Well, thanks. Yeah, I’m trying. 

Lacey: I think it’s important for us to recognize that because, especially when we’re in business, and we’re kind of so focused on the growth of it or whatever, it’s easy to forget all of that and to be like, “Whatever, I don’t have the amount of listens I want,” or “I don’t have the likes I want” or whatever. Did that help someone that you’ve never even met today? Cause that’s some shit, right?

Christina: Right. And I think actually going back to this podcast lunch, you know, I don’t know how far this will come out from when we actually launched it. But you know, the same thing, when I did that thousand dollars giveaway. So one of the giveaways was a call with me. So that’s time I didn’t take any revenue, but every other person, I 100% paid them, even though they’re my clients, I literally Venmo’d or PayPal’d or Striped $250 to every single person who gave a prize. And then those people who were blessed with those prizes. I think that stuff like that, I’ve been blessed, so my job is to kind of like pass that on. 

Lacey: I love that. Okay. So what is one of the most important values in your business or life? 

Christina: Probably again, coming back to authenticity, trust, vulnerability. It’s probably saying what you’re going to do and actually do it.

That’s one that most people really need to kind of hit on is, if you say you’re going to do something, fucking do it. I’m really going to build you for the long run. And I think that that’s really important. So if you say you’re going to do something, do it, even if you quit after it’s over or you pivot or whatever, okay, cool but say what you’re going to actually do and do it.

Lacey: So good. Okay. What is one thing that makes your cup feel full? 

Christina: Time with people. Yeah. Time with people and helping people. I love when I get off a call, and I’m sure you feel the same way. I love when I get off a call with someone and I’m like, “Fuck, I just totally helped them.” Or I just made their day better or I just made their business better. 

Lacey: It’s the best. 

Christina: It really is. 

Lacey: And I think what’s so helpful about that too, is framing it like that. Cause I think that, you can get drained by that or you can kind of get full by that, depending on how you want to see it.

Like, “Whew, that was a heavy call!” or like, “Ooh, that was a breakthrough! That was amazing!” You can really see that in two different ways. 

Christina: Totally. This is a question for both of us, but because we both do so many one-on-one calls and not very many people do. You do more than I do at the moment. How do you take care of yourself? How do you do that? 

And that is actually a question I was going to ask you on your podcast. Lacey’s going to put this hopefully out on her podcast. You can listen to it. I’ll let you know when it comes out. But a lot of times you are on, I used to call it in the golf industry. I literally remember days where I hosted corporate golf events. I got there at seven o’clock in the morning and I was “on.” So, high-vibe, shaking hands, laughing, hitting, doing all the things all day long. 

And then sometimes, and then I hit a hundred golf shots and bullshitting with people. Then shaking hands at dinner, and then doing presentations and stuff for the speeches and stuff. And I literally remember getting in my car and bawling, not because I was sad, but just because I was so overwhelmed. I remember I called my mom and I was just crying. She was like, “Oh my God, are you okay?” And I was like, “Yeah, it’s just a lot. It’s just a lot, a lot, a lot.” And there’s times where if I do six hours of calls in a day, it’s a lot. So for me, I have to walk and I have to move my body or just be in pure silence. Like nothing. What do you do? 

Lacey: Oh my God. I totally agree with that. I’ve noticed, if I can just tell like 15 minutes of silence in between things I’m good.

I recharge pretty quickly. I’m definitely an introvert. So I recharge with the alone time, silence, that kind of thing. But I don’t need a ton. I just need those pockets. So, I’ll have breaks in my day throughout the calls and throughout the day. And if I can just have those few minutes to just literally sit in silence,  Kenny will always have a TV on or music on or whatever.

And I’m like, I need silence and just to sit with myself and I can recenter really fast, but also same with exercise. It helps me a ton, a ton. Just that quiet time. 

And then also, I just do mindset work throughout the day kind of thing. If I’m like, “Woo, like that was a lot,” I will open a little document on my computer and type out all the things I’m grateful for that day.

I just try to find those pockets to reset often because I think when you’re getting on a lot of calls or running a business like that, I don’t have like three hours in the middle of the day to do whatever, do a thing, but I have 15 minutes, I have 30 minutes here. I have 10 minutes there. And so I just try to use those, if that makes sense. 

Christina: Yeah. That’s good for sure. But yeah, it’s interesting. Cause I don’t think most people realize unless you have a sales type job or a job like this, that you’re on all the time. It’s hard for someone to understand. Even when I was playing golf, people were like, “Wait a minute. You’ve played golf and now you talk to people all day. How are you tired?” And I’m like sitting at a desk is way less tiring than that. Trust me. 

Lacey: Yeah. Yeah, totally. I think it’s also different when it’s in person. For me, retreats are a lot more tiring than a day of calls because I’m still in my own space and have that recharge time, right? 

Christina: Yeah. No, I love it. All right. So, cause I do want to have enough time to interview you and I feel like I could talk to you all day, which is great. So always choose a coach that you feel like you could talk to all day. Is there a final question for me, Lacy? 

Lacey: Yes, there is. Oh my God. I have so many. Okay, what do you think will be different for you in five years from now in life or business? 

Christina: Ah, good question. I hope I can figure out how to streamline a little bit more to be able to serve more people, but still be able to have the connection with my humans that I do now. 

Lacey: I love that. So good. This was so fun. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you for always saying yes. Thank you for having me. I loved this. We’ll have to do a followup because I have more, too. 

Christina: Thank you for taking the time! I love that. You guys, let us know what questions Lacey, as my coach should ask me. I think I’m going to have maybe one of my best friends and maybe my husband interview me one day. 

So you guys thank you so much for tuning in! Until next time!

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