Learn from the Passionate Few’s Omar Elattar

In this episode: 

Success coach and former professional golfer, Christina Lecuyer speaks with Omar Elattar, creator & host of “The Passionate Few” podcast & YouTube series. Omar serves up some entrées of wisdom in this week’s podcast about how he manifested his dream career and created a fulfilled life by thinking big and having incredible faith. We’ll dive into some of the highlights (and lowlights) of how it all came to be. Get your pens ready, you’ll want to take notes! 

Christina Lecuyer’s Bio:

Christina Lecuyer is a former Professional Golfer, a three-time reality television competitor, Confidence + Mindset Coach, Motivational Speaker, and Founder of Women with C.L.A.S.S. Mastermind, as well as Decide It’s Your Turn: Women’s Weekend. Christina’s mission in life is to empower people to fully live in their purpose, confidently and successfully! 

Omar Elattar’s Bio:

Omar Elattar is the creator & host of “The Passionate Few” podcast & YouTube series! An avid student of personal development & world class interviewer, he is on a mission to “humanize greatness, 1 story at a time!” What makes his story particularly compelling is Omar’s ability to network with & conduct some of the most popular interviews on the internet with some of the most in-demand through leaders in business today – including interviews to the tunes of millions of listeners! He is also a passionate entrepreneur who loves sharing his story with others so that they too can fulfill their quest for success in a meaningful way.

Follow Omar on Instagram @omar_therockstar

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Full Episode Transcript: 

[Christina Lecuyer] Welcome back to the Decide It’s Your Turn Podcast. You guys, I am SO stoked to have our guest today, Omar Elattar. He is the podcast bad-ass guru.

He spoke in our Women with C.L.A.S.S. Mastermind last year and I knew in that moment I needed to have him on this podcast. Before I introduce him, I just want to tell you guys, I initially found Omar through my husband. 

I don’t even know if he knows this, but I found him through my husband because my husband is a big Grant Cardone fan and I’m a huge Ed Mylett fan, Tony Robbins fan….Anyway, my husband was listening to a podcast with Grant Cardone and he’s like, “You gotta listen to this podcast. It’s so good.” And I was like, “Okay, let’s bring it on.” And when we listened to that podcast, I was like, “Holy shit. I love this dude. I love what he’s about.” 

I totally researched you. So thank you so much for coming on today. I love it. 

[Omar Elattar] Absolutely. I’m honored to be on. And I’m so glad that you enjoyed the show and yeah, connecting Ed and Grant was one of the most surreal things I’ve ever done. It was a lot of effort and planning and strategic communication. It’s two macho egos, amazing dudes. They both have a nice, healthy discourse about life, success and all of that. 

So I’m glad that so many people enjoyed it, including yourself. And I’m honored that you guys enjoyed the show and I’m happy to be on your platform now. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Yeah, absolutely. Going forward from that, one of my favorite parts actually was when you interviewed Javier from Javier’s restaurant. 

It started out a little slow, but I promise you one of the things that I just loved about you, when you came into the Women with C.L.A.S.S. Mastermind, you just truly gave so many amazing takeaways. 

That’s what this podcast is really about – is giving people something that they can decide it’s their turn, obviously, but then also some takeaways to make some fast action. 

In that podcast in particular, I just loved so many of the takeaways that he gave in how he created such success over such a long period of time.

A couple of the things that you said in our mastermind class that I’ll never forget is talking about where you came from and how you pretty much manifested your whole entire life. 

It started with a decision, honestly, and I love your and my beginnings in what we do now are very similar, different, but very similar.

It all started with some decisions. 

So I’d love you to tell everyone kind of how you started out being Omar, the rockstar podcaster, and how you got to where you are now. 

[Omar Elattar] Yeah. First of all, I want to first acknowledge you and honor you for calling the show something that relates to decisions. I think that is SO spot-on. 

My show is called the Passionate Few because the premise of it is there’s a few people who are so passionate, what they’re doing that they sort of poke it into reality. 

They had no clue how to do it, like Javier, who was living on a mattress with his wife and lost everything in his forties.

A lot of people play games in their head, if they haven’t made their first million bucks by whatever age, I’m getting too old, etc. 

And to think that [Javier] went from that to building a huge restaurant. That came from him making a decision. 

If you trace back every successful person that I’ve ever interviewed from people who’ve gone from rags to riches or whatever it is, it doesn’t have to just be money. I mean, there’s sports athletes, whatever-thought leaders. It all starts with a decision.

 A lot of people grow up with the same backgrounds and it’s those decisions where the trajectory changes.

Tony Robbins talks about it, decisions shape our destiny. 

So, thank you for the compliments on the show, but I honestly want to acknowledge you for naming it that because deciding it’s your turn, deciding now is a time for action is literally the definition. deciding to invest yourself, deciding to take action, deciding what things mean, no matter what’s going on in the environment around you or how stressful it may be, that that’s what a true leader does.

That’s the common denominator. If you trace back everybody, that’s the difference. Everyone goes through the same BS. The difference is how they decide to respond to it. So that’s a long-winded way of saying, I love what you’re doing and I’m happy to support it here.

[Christina Lecuyer] Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that. 

[Omar Elattar] Yeah, absolutely. In terms of how I started, it’s really interesting because I started out with not necessarily the experience that one would think that you would need to start a podcast or a show. I found myself 24-years-old like everybody in social media today, no matter how old you are, you always feel like you’re too old.

I had graduated college and I had friends who were starting to make money. Some were starting to make six-figures and here I was not fulfilled in college. I’m not fulfilled with what I was saying in my career. I was just kind of trying to figure out how to “make it” my whole life growing up.

I wanted to be somebody. I wanted to matter and not from a place of ego or fame or fortune per se, but I wanted to be a master at something. Whether it was soccer when I was a kid or skateboarding or I want it to be professional and I’m sure you can relate as somebody who played golf at a high level.

It’s like you have a craft and you want to take it all the way and protect it and honor it. So I always thought like that. 

I was trying to find my thing so I would do things and it would fizzle out; I would do things and it would fizzle out. 

Finally, when I was 24-years-old, I found myself in a place where I felt like I was at a dead end because I had tried everything. 

I was working sales jobs. I was working at Tesla, a great company. It was super cool to be a part of the culture before that I had done door-to-door and solar sales. 

So I was kind of in the clean energy sales niche. I loved it but I knew there was more and, long story short, I found myself in a place where I was 24-years-old and totally unfulfilled.

It was making money. I was the number one sales rep at Tesla, but I was outspending my earnings because I was so unfulfilled. So I was trying to numb it with alcohol. I was trying to numb it with weed. I was trying to numb it with just food and activities or buying stuff I didn’t need. 

There was just this hole I was trying to fill and I couldn’t quite fill it in an honest way; an authentic way. 

So I was down to my last $300, believe it or not. One day I reached out to somebody I know and he connected me with a life coach.

Life coaches charge 250 an hour. I had about 300 bucks to my name. I’m in my mid-twenties. My parents think I’m nuts for quitting my job at Tesla.

And literally with that little money connected with the life coach. (Shout out to Dave Thorpe.) Dave changed my life in that first session and that was really the first time I had ever invested.

And it’s so interesting that when I had the least, I invested the most. 

Very interesting. 

And again, that was a decision because I realized that clearly I don’t have this under control, right? Clearly on my own devices. Things are not clicking. And you have to understand, I have all of these years of references of having dreams and telling my friends in high school, “I’m gonna make it.”

I want to be somebody. Now, I’m hiding like a clam. I didn’t even have social media. I don’t want people to call my bluff and I wanted to do something meaningful. 

So all that pressure combined, when I connected with that coach and we sat, we sat down one day and he said, “Omar, if life was perfect what would happen next?”

That was the first time in my life that I really was given permission to dream. So many of us in life subconsciously. We inherit this kind of belief that life can’t be amazing. It can’t be fully perfect like that. Something’s got to give. 

Maybe you can get close to a significant other that you want, or maybe a career close to what you want or income close to what you want.

But we kind of subconsciously assume we can’t have it exactly how we want. We can’t have the, “Oh my God, I can’t believe this is my real life.” 

For the first time in my life, as an adult, who has success in his life and his business just sold some companies. So he was coming, you know, it, wasn’t a fly-by-night coach.

This is a guy who’s done it for him to say, “Omar, clean slate, clean paper, forget about the past. If life was perfect, what would happen next?”

It blew my mind!

Also, at the time my, my ex-girlfriend had broken up with me, so she was like the last bit of hope and that was gone.

So it was literally rock bottom. I was at the end of my rope. When he asked me  what would happen if life was perfect, I didn’t know what I would do. And I said, well, if you did know what you would do, right. Tony Robbins line, or, Hey, you did know what would you do?

I said, “you know what, maybe this, maybe that, maybe this.” He said, “okay, I’ll tell you what, Omar, I’m not going to have you make an entrée, but you’re the chef of your life. Let’s just write down the ingredients you have in your inventory.” Instead of getting overwhelmed with what’s my passion, what’s my purpose, think about what I want to do instead.

Let’s just keep it simple. On a fundamental level, what are the ingredients to be true. The ingredients that are going to be true a year from now, five years, ten years from now. What’s true. I said, “Okay, well, I love communicating with amazing people. I love watching, inspiring stuff.”

I said, “I would like to inspire millions of people. I would like to make millions of dollars. I would like my main skill set and tools to be my ability to communicate and listen. I would love to meet Tony Robbins in-person. I would love to meet Grant Cardone in-person, and Jordan Belfort, Wolf of Wall Street.” 

I had all of these business icons and authors and all this stuff. And so we just started writing it down. I tell a lot of my clients most people don’t place orders to the universe or life. But then there’s another group that do place orders, but they only have some of the ingredients necessary to make it.

So even if they make that entrée, it’s missing some oregano or some salt or some flour or something. They want that entrée, but they don’t have the ingredients currently. You see the parallel here between the entrée of your life and the entrée of actual food.

This sort of thinking allowed me to take the pressure off of having to know the answer. As opposed to going to the kitchen, landing ingredients on the table and going, “Oh, I could make this with those ingredients” or “I could do this with those ingredients.” Now it might sound obvious that all those ingredients would lead to a podcast and a show and online stuff. But at the time it was so foreign to me. 

My ingredients were loaded with insecurities and thoughts like would that be weird to put a show on YouTube? How am I going to afford it? I have no video experience. I have no editing experience. Would it be a YouTube show? Would it be a podcast?

This is like five years ago. It wasn’t now. Everybody has a podcast or is launching one. I think a lot of people saw it from afar and little by little saw somebody they know doing it and then somebody else they’re not doing it and go, “Oh, I can do it.” 

At the time I had no references like that. So me and Dave concocted this list of all these ingredients. And he goes, “Omar, it looks to me like you got to produce an interview show.” And I said, “Yeah, you’re right, Dave. Maybe get a job in radio, right?” 

So when we went online and looked at job qualifications for radio, I realized they want people with experience. Catch-22. It’s like you need experience to get on, but how do you gain the experience without having a platform? And he goes, “Omar, you might need to take destiny into your own hands. What about YouTube?” And I was like, “Oh shit. Okay.” 

And I was like, well, I don’t know how to do it. I can’t afford it and do that. And he goes, “What are the ingredients?” So like he taught me to look at success as an ingredient, instead of some faraway thing, you know, what’s the recipe or the recipe would be three things, right?

Find a person to agree to an interview, find a person to record it, and find somebody to edit and upload it and that’s it. 

It removed the veil of all these complexities and emotional burdens. These things that we wear ourselves down with. Then he asked me what day I want to launch.

I remember I was like, “I don’t know.” He was like, “We’ll pick a day.” I said, “September 16th.” He said, “Okay, what time?” I said “1:00 PM.” He said, “Okay. So September 16th, 1:00 PM. Okay, what’s our next step?” I said, “I got to confirm a guest.” I said, “But I don’t have people to film it or edit.” And he goes, “Well, if you commit to them with them, are you confident yourself that the pressure will help you figure it out?”

I was like, “Yeah.” And so right then and there I scheduled my first interview, reached out to somebody on the spot. 

Within two weeks, I had found the videographer and the editor and recorded the first one and it was up. And from there, the flood gates were open and I was just like, “Whoa, I completed one.” 

I got to one finish line and was like, Holy shit! I just manifested from being in the lowest place ever to doing the coolest thing ever. From that point, it was on like a drug. Like a shark. That blood and water. 

And I got that first feeling at first euphoria of doing it, and then I put it out and, and, and you know, not a lot of people listen to it, but when you’re starting anything for people listening to it, it’s amazing.

You’re like, Oh my God. Oh my God, amazing. Millions of people listen to it now. But at that time I was blown away that anybody did, but that was that first taste. And from there. It was on. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Oh my God. This is, this is so good. I know if you literally have not grabbed a pen and a paper and started writing down your ingredients freaking now you are crazy. 

Pause it, go back, hit the light. 15 second back, back, back and rewatch this you guys, because I promise you exactly what Omar is talking about is what I have had to deal with. 

So many of my clients have had to deal with what Omar’s clients have had to deal with. How many of you out there are thinking, “Well, I just don’t know where to start and I don’t know how it’ll turn into something.” 

I tell people all the time. You may not know how it turns into a business. Five, six years ago, when I first started this, there was no chance in hell I would be able to know all of the things that I’m doing now. It just took one action and something that I think that you said is so important is you put a date on it. 

Finding that one person, that’s your accountability. I believe accountability is so huge. You may not have been accountable to your coach at that moment, but you are accountable to the very first person who scheduled an interview with you. You knew you were going to show up because you knew that was actually going to be the thing that sets you apart. 

So you started this rollercoaster or this high speed train and fast forward, five years now, all the things that you’re able to do. Before we hit record, you were telling me you’ve got seven employees now in five years. No one, when they start, have any idea how it’s going to finish. It was your turn. 

I have a question for you. Do you believe that every single person has to have a rock bottom because I feel like so many people get to like their rock bottom moment. I know for me, it was like my rock bottom. 

You are talking about your rock bottom. Do you feel like having a rock bottom is kind of like the place where a lot of people take off?

[Omar Elattar] You know, that’s a beautiful question and I’m so glad you asked that. In my meditation a couple of months ago, I had a thought that has never left me and I can’t wait to do videos about this. I don’t think it’s necessary, but I do think it triggers what’s necessary and here’s what I mean by that.

I think that if you look at, not just the most successful people in the world, but really the most fulfilled – I don’t want the message of like money and the reference of all these things I interviewed to be the only metric. I don’t care if it’s a sport, a craft, a hobby, an art, a vocation, whatever it is. I think that masters are really authentically honest with themselves about their love for the game or the business. So I think it’s honesty. And I think interestingly enough and this is so interesting, and I really thought about this in a meditation is that most of us never get honest until we’re in a rock bottom place.

We never get honest about what we want in a relationship until we go through a really bad one, right. We never figure out how we really want to make money until maybe we’ve made money doing something we’re not totally fulfilled by. We usually don’t prioritize our health until major sickness occurs because then when we’re sick, we’re making deals with God. 

Oh my God, I really need to take control. Or maybe you gain weight and then you get honest with yourself. So I don’t necessarily think rock bottoms are important, but I think that they trigger honest conversations with yourself, because think about it most of the time, say you get a big check. That’s probably, that’s probably a time you’re filling your head with fantasies and not in a bad way, but you’re ambitious. You’re like, Oh, I did that. What else could I do? You know? So in a non-harmful way, you kind of start to inflate your ego, not from a bad place, but just in flight, your natural ego, wanting to do more, how much more can I make?

How many more people can I help? Right. And so you’re in that sort of aspirational perspective when things are going well. But if you, if you look at companies and if you reverse engineer people who are successful or, you know, authors, like J. K. Rowling, right? Whatever it is, like there were tons of failures before, and those failures force you to go into a corner where you have nothing else, but your mind to have that conversation with. So I think when you have nothing, you start to get really honest, really quick. For example, I had a surgery, was it two months ago?  We were at this beautiful place by the beach.

It was accepted, I had my whole team there. We did an interview. We had some clients, it was amazing. I went from being oceanfront and at a $1,700 a night place to the very next day having a near appendix rupture that rushed me to the hospital and had to have emergency surgery. And the surgeon rushed in and everybody’s freaking out and I’m like, “Oh my God, what happened?”

I was fine a day ago. And now they’re telling me that it could be life-threatening and it’s intense. And if we waited multiple hours, it could be the end for me, you know? So I got rushed into emergency surgery out of nowhere. I was in the most severe pain in my life and they numbed me up, put me on all these drugs.

And I went under and literally it was like that. I literally went from the top of feeling great and, you know, things are going amazing just like that. You know, things were down and of course what happens, you know, I’m in the hospital and I’m starting to be like, man, like what really matters. And so I’m starting to think about my health – boom.

So when I got out of it, I started drinking celery juice. I started being more mindful of my health. I start being way more cautious about my body and my diet and my mindset. And then when I was sitting there, I was also like, man, how have I done enough for others? Like, yeah, the show’s amazing. Don’t get me wrong, and I’ll do it for many years to come. And businesses are going phenomenal. 

But have I helped enough people? And so right then and there, right when I got out, I reached out to Feeding America and partnered with them and me and my companies are doing a Milly meal pledge. And so anybody wants to get involved. We’re feeding a million people through Feeding America. A hundred percent of that goes to Feeding America to help men, women and children in need, especially during COVID, 50 million people. 

But if it wasn’t for that situation being so intense where I had nothing. My phone died. So I was in the hospital after surgery for three or four hours, just thinking – there was no business. There were no podcasts. There’s no assistant. There was no team. It was just me and my thoughts. 

I think that it’s, it’s more about being honest with yourself and I think meditation could kind of do that, but if you think about it, people don’t get really honest with themselves until things get really harsh.

I think that’s more of the prerequisite than anything. Tony has this cool thing where he says that if you don’t learn a lesson, life has a way of teaching you a lesson, you know? You can live a lot of your life, not the best and just kind of coasting with somewhere between not happy, but not unhappy enough to do something about it until something happens.

And you’re like, “Oh shit, like I’m in jail or I’m broke”, or go through a breakup then you got to get really honest, real fast. There’s no more time, no more BS. You don’t have money to buy your way out of thinking different things. Right? I think that’s what it is.

I think it’s about being honest here. And unfortunately, and myself included, sometimes the only time we really get honest with ourselves is when we’re in low lows, which ends up being a blessing.

[Christina Lecuyer]I love, I love that. That’s so good. I’ve never really actually thought about it that way.

I use the slogan all the time. My husband and I have this slogan that we do hard things, hard things is what we do. And I feel like the vast majority of the world and, correct me if I’m wrong, or what your opinion is on it but I feel like the vast majority of the world avoids doing hard things. 

How can we stay as safe as possible? And how can we avoid putting ourselves out there and deciding it’s our turn? Like all of the things that you’re talking about. And even for some people who do go through the really hard times, like you’re talking about and go to jail and make bad decisions and go broke and all the things, what do you think sets certain people apart that are like, “Oh, no, just watch me.”

[Omar Elattar] Absolutely. The emotional association to the vision in the future. I’m convinced that it’s that beyond a shadow of a doubt, especially that I’ve seen it in my own life. And also that at this stage I’ve had a unique perspective because a lot of the authors and stuff that I used to look up to, I know now I can talk to them.

I can text them. I’ve spent days with them. I’ve been on the private jets. I’ve been in their house. I’ve heard their insecurities. I’ve heard their story from them themselves, not through a romantic lens of just YouTube. I’ve seen it over and over and over with the hundreds of people that I’ve gotten to connect with an interview and all that.

I’ve done it in person and there’s a certain level of energy and person that you pick up that sometimes doesn’t translate in other mediums. I would say that it’s two-fold, right. I heard the same with Jeff Bezos, right? Wealthiest man in the world says the difference between successful people is their perspective of time horizons.

If you think about people who make a lot of money, they think globally. They think in decades, right? They think in a lifetime. I’ll use the example to make the point here with money, but you can plug in whatever variable you want for whoever’s listening at home or wherever you’re listening to this.

Jeff Bezos, a lot of people don’t know he was the brokest person in the world. At one point he was in debt, billions of dollars, way more than anyone for 11 years, give or take. Now he’s the wealthiest man in the world. So without him risking being the most in-debt person in the world, he wouldn’t have been the wealthiest, but on paper, somebody working at Burger King making minimum wage was technically on paper wealthier than Jeff Bezos.

He was in debt, billions and billions and billions of dollars. That’s hard. People see him now the Amazon thing and like, “Oh yeah, it was a great idea.” You don’t know the shit. He ate free for a decade plus imagine the investors. I don’t know if the numbers are great, but I heard that at one point, Amazon was in debt, $30 billion.

He was the most in-depth person on the planet. So the pendulum swings both ways and people just want the up pendulum. They don’t want the down thing. They just want the up. By not taking the risk, he wouldn’t have become who he is.

The pendulum has to swing both ways. It’s like in relationships, people want all the love and they don’t want none of the friction. They don’t want to solve any of the problems. They just want the kisses and the love and the romance and all that, but they don’t want to solve problems.

They don’t want to build together. They don’t want to be a team. They don’t want to resolve conflicts. And so that infatuation is one-sided. I think that that’s what it is. Most people just, they want half of it. They don’t want the whole thing, but they don’t realize that the juice is in the squeeze, right?

There’s no orange juice stuff to squeeze. They want orange juice. They don’t want to squeeze the orange and they are the orange. So I think that that is the case. As it relates to time horizons, billionaires think globally, they think in terms of a lifetime, multiple decades, right?

People who make hundreds of millions of dollars are thinking, a decade plus two decades, three decades, people will make a couple million bucks think a couple of years into the future. People who make six figures probably think a year at a time. People who maybe make six figures or a little bit under that are thinking about their monthly salary, right, a good monthly salary. 

People who make thousands of dollars or hundreds of dollars think in terms of wage, “How much should I get paid per hour?” So the units of time that we think, I think is what affects most people, because the people that make the least money, make it by the hour.

The people that make the most money make it by putting in effort into an industry over a sustained period of time with no guarantee of ROI, you know? 

I think that manifests into dreams, into goals and ambitions. It’s like a lot of people are not willing to go $30 billion in debt, in their craft or in their business or whatever the parallel is to get to the other side.

The second they get $10,000 in debt, and again, it’s an extreme example, referencing Jeff Bezos. The parallel here is investing $200 in yourself or $2,000 in yourself, or reading a book or, or committing to a craft for X amount of days in a row, or being willing to fail at your business for a year straight until you hit it.

That one sidedness, I think misses the point and I’ll, I’ll make one more quick reference and I get long-winded. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Oh, I love it. I’m in exactly the same place. It’s killing me to stay quiet, but I love it.

[Omar Elattar] There’s an analogy with the cocoon and the butterfly, right. When a Caterpillar goes into a cocoon, right? The process of a caterpillar turning into a butterfly is called metamorphosis. 

Most people for the sake of the analogy here are caterpillars, before they go into the cocoons and try to make their dreams happen. What’s interesting though, if you look at this scientifically, is that when a caterpillar goes into a cocoon, it actually is nearly suffocating in that tight space in the cocoon. What caterpillars are doing inside of the cocoon before they break out as butterflies is they’re actually wiggling.Look at the parallel here between us and our dreams and the pressure of the cocoons of our businesses and lives or whatever it is. The process of the Caterpillar wiggling. 

Did you know this, Christina, this just blew my mind that the exact muscle required for Caterpillar’s wings to support it, to fly the exact amount is the amount of muscle that’s cultivated in the process.

Wiggling to break out of the cocoon, meaning in the cocoon, it has to nearly suffocate and still wiggle under pressure for it to develop the muscles so that once it breaks through that, the exact muscle required. For the caterpillar to develop in the cocoon to break through is the exact precise amount.

You can Google this. It’s the exact precise amount that’s required to support the wings for the butterfly to fly. And some caterpillars suffocate in the cocoon and never get out and die. Most people stop wiggling. Most people in the cocoon stopped because, “Oh my God, it’s so tight. It’s not going to end.” 

And you know, they’re a butterfly and they’re a butterfly. And social media is all butterflies sourcing. Everybody’s beautiful wings. They don’t show you them in the cocoon. And so when you’re in the cocoon, you’re like, “Dang, I’m not a butterfly. Maybe I’m not good enough”, beautiful you just keep wiggling, you will be ready when you’re ready.

You can’t compare yourself to others, “Oh, well, how come she only had to wiggle in her cocoon for 20 minutes or two days or three days”. Everybody has a different thing, but their wings aren’t yours. You might have even more beautiful things. Javier, you mentioned the interview, he didn’t start till his forties built a hundred million dollar business.

I have a lot of buddies of mine out there that shall not be named who made a couple million bucks in their twenties or thirties, but then they spent it all and blew it all. Because they didn’t have a really sustainable business. They’re trying to figure out the next one trick pony for the next year, next year.

So you can’t evaluate it based on a snapshot and you got to see the whole game. What I tell people on my team is we gotta keep wiggling. If you’re in a tight spot, you’re in a cocoon right now, but you have to have faith that those wings will develop, if you just keep wiggling and stay in the cocoon.

You have two choices: one, you stay in the cocoon, stop wiggling and die, or keep wiggling, build the muscle and breakthrough. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Best analogy ever. I love it. I talk about this with my clients and on this podcast all the time is that you 100% have to play the long game.

I’m very, very open and honest. Like I lost like close to $80,000 in the first couple of years of my business. People are shocked and give up all the time. 

How many people do you say to you, “Well, I’m still trying to make back that first thousand dollars I invested” and I’m like, “Whoa, what the fuck you are? Stop right now.”

It’s just mind blowing to me. If you continue to play the long game, if you continue to build those muscles, Oh my God. You’re going to have success. Who’s going to be so much greater on the outside rather than dying in the cocoon. Oh my God. Yeah. I’m obsessed.

[Omar Elattar] Exactly. And when I first started, I maxed out all my credit cards. I maxed out all my credit cards and I was scared and I was so scared. I remember thinking to myself, what if I don’t do that? I’d rather have been in debt $30,000 and have the pressure and bet on myself than have $30,000 in my savings or something at that time.

They say some people are so poor, they have nothing but money. I wanted a fulfilling life. I wanted to wake up every day and pinch myself. It’s funny. I was looking at my journals last night and I used to write them down like that.

I see myself living a surreal life, or I get to pinch myself. If I walk into a restaurant, I want to look around and feel like, “Man, nobody’s doing something cooler than me.” 

Not from an egotistical place, but from a place of meat, like nothing would fulfill me more. Before I would walk into places and this person’s doing that and that person’s doing this and I’m like, “Shit, I sell cars.” For whatever reason that it just didn’t fulfill me.

So I just remember thinking, “Man, I want to do somewhere.” I wake up everyday and I can’t believe I get to be me. It’s funny. Fast forward a couple of years, I had forgotten that I had articulated my dreams in that way. You forget when you write down so much and I look back at those pages and I could still see myself planning on how to make my first $10K month. 

Which, we’ve blown past years ago, but you can see the development of your goals. I can still see water spots on the page from tears and I was trying to figure it out. Those experiences end up being some of the most fulfilling things ever.

No risk, no reward. I’ve never met anybody that didn’t go into it. I think they say the average millionaire has filed bankruptcy, at least once. 

[Christina Lecuyer] I’m lucky. I haven’t filed bankruptcy, but something that I think is so cool that you and I both do. When you just said right there, that you walk into a restaurant and you’re like, “there’s no one doing anything cooler than I am.” 

I truly say this all the time. I truly believe I have one of the greatest lives ever because I decided. And because I choose it. I also write down in my journals every single day, I am happier, healthier, more patient and kind today than I was yesterday.

I am 100% living a blessed life by blessing others. I have written that for so long before that even existed. I want everyone listening today to hear there’s a billion successful people on the planet, but you and I both have put on paper. 

This is something that you talked about in our mastermind. You talked about speaking it out loud and putting it down on paper before it exists. And I am a massive fan of this, but you spoke about this in our mastermind. You want to talk a little bit about that because I’m obsessed with it. 

[Omar Elattar] Absolutely. I’m a man of faith, I believe in God. When you think about, for example, scripture or prophecy, God had to write it down for it to manifest and for people to learn about it. So God had to write things down for them to be spread, but you’re gonna achieve your goals by not writing them down. That doesn’t make sense that you figured out a way to do it, and streamline it easier than God.

You found a shortcut that God couldn’t figure out. That to me, doesn’t make sense. You mentioned your husband is a contractor. Blueprints, you gotta draw it down first. You got to write it down first. Clarity is power. You have to create it first. I even tell people this. People say, “Well, how do I start my show?” Or,  “I’m nervous.” 

I’ll never forget Dave Thorpe, shout out to Dave. He recommended that I schedule a date and time. You have to say, “I’m gonna start by asking my first question.” 

I have a photo actually. I sent it to you after the interview in 2016. Before I had a logo or anything. I wrote down the Passionate Few by Omar and I wrote down the prophecy. I said the Passionate Few and inspiring video series. I see myself getting 1 million downloads. We’ve blown past it.

But at the time a million was like, Oh my God. That’s like a million dollars. It sounded like so far away, it sounded like a billion dollars or something. And I just wrote it on, I see myself inspiring millions of people. I see myself interviewing amazing people. I see Tony Robbins and me. I wrote it down so intensely and I would read it.

And it was so weird, Christina, because it’s actually on my Instagram. I had posted it. I wrote down a prophecy, write down your prophecy. Write it down, write down the plan and it’s okay if it changes, but when you do it, it’s like a script, right? A movie requires a script, a building requires a blueprint, a religion requires a Bible or a Koran or a Torah, right?

You gotta write down the prophecy, you got to write down the plan. A restaurant, they have to write it on the menu, right? 

How are you going to manifest your entire life? If the steps are not driven by concrete things that are written down, you have to work the plan. Like plays in sports, you write down the plan. For example, you went to go work in a business where there was no protocol, there was no training manual.

You talk it out loud and clear it out through talk, right? It’s not clear that way. Most people live their life that way. I’ve made this mistake. I’m not coming from a high horse here. It’s not like I was a master. I learned through trial and error because I didn’t use to write things down in my life that didn’t work.

But yet when I started writing things down, things started happening fast. I see myself interviewing Grant Cardone. I see myself connecting with Tony Robbins. Fast forward, it would have blown me away to think that Tony would personally reach out to me and fly me out, have me as a guest backstage, I got to hang out with Tony.

He acknowledged me for the good that I’m doing with the show and sent me this personal voice memo. To think that I was once in my car, smoking joints. Parked outside like drinking and I remember there would be times Christina, where, when I started the show, I would just be praying to God like, “Please God, let this work, please, God. I don’t need millions of dollars. Just please just give me enough to make it work, please. God, please.” I wouldn’t have enough money to fill up my car. 

My first interview with Grant Cardone in Malibu, it was early 2017. I didn’t have enough money to put gas in my car to get to the interview. A buddy gave me a ride to go interview Grant Cardone. Resourcefulness is the ultimate resource. I couldn’t pay a production crew, how do I pay them in like 30 days for the invoice, for the video.

I just called a real estate company to get them as a sponsor, to fund the video. I had no experience. I didn’t know how to interview. I was so pedal to the metal. It was driven by the fact that my ex-girlfriend, she loved three things more than anything. She loved Grant Cardone. She had all his books by the bed. She was in sales, and she’s super into fitness. So she loved Quest nutrition and she loved Hot Cheetos. So when she broke up with me, I used that pain and converted it into power and fast forward a year, I ended up interviewing Grant Cardone. 

You’re the creator of Quest nutrition and the creator of Hot Cheetos and every single one of them ended up being the most watched and downloaded interview in the world with all of them like, boom, boom, boom. Again, it was pedal to the metal. I drove the creator, Hot Cheetos speaking at several events.

He turned me down several times and the third time he was like, man, you don’t give up. I said, “No, sir.” He’s like, all right, gave me the interview. 

Grant Cardone. I stalked his Instagram with him in Atlanta, when they were in Beverly Hills. I drove two hours there, waited outside of a restaurant for two hours, and pitched him cold outside and told him. And he was like, “You really drove all the way here just to ask that?” I was like, “Yeah.” He was like, “I like you, man. I’ll have my assistant get in touch.” We set up the interview. It was the most watched Grant Cardone interview in the world and he’s become a client of our company and we’ve helped them multiple times and then it snowballed.

And then Tom Bill, same thing. I think one of the first people to interview Tom, right before impact there even launched, I was on set that day. One of impact theory. I still have Tom’s number to this day. He’s become a good mentor and friend, I asked him about business and taxes and all this stuff.

Jordan Belfort from the Wolf of Wall Street would later interview me on his show. I’m not saying this stuff to impress you because it still blows me away and impresses me. As Tony says, I don’t say this to impress you. I say it to impress upon you what’s possible.

If you write things down and I wrote these things down, I wrote these names down. I see myself with Tom. I would imagine vividly. Hi, I’m Tony Robbins. I’m one of the passionate few. If you are high on Grant Cardone, I’m one of the passionate few. I would imagine them saying it over and over and over. So it’s funny, everybody else who watches the show, they now hear it, but you don’t know that I’ve heard it 10,000 times in my mind before it ever freaking happened.

Amen. I decided that that’s what it was going to be and kept wiggling. And there’ve been lots of challenges, but thanks be to God, you know, write down the plan, stick with the plan. It’s yours, if you just don’t give up. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Oh, I love that so much. Is there a person that you have wanted to interview right now that you have yet to interview? 

[Omar Elattar] I’m going with Tony Robbins, Howard Stern. I would love to interview Trump. Tony Robbins though. Yeah. Connected with Tony, but I want to do it like an in-person one at his house. When I interviewed Grant and I interviewed Ed, like individually, I had this vision in my mind, it was kind of like a challenge.

I wanted to interview Grant and Ed with a view and cigars and wine, and I wanted to do it, and I literally did it. We rented this place for like 125 grand a week. The place looks pretty good. The view is real, I went there.

It was the most bad-ass house I’ve ever seen in my life. It still is. And he has like a jacuzzi overlooking the ocean. 

[Christina Lecuyer] I mean, that’s where he does his interview and that’s where I thought that was. Okay. I interrupted you, Tony Robbins, Howard stern. Who else? 

[Omar Elattar] President Clinton, President Obama, Oprah. God, there’s so many, but those are like the titans I would love to interview. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Oprah. Yeah. That would be exceptional. How do you get yourself back on track when you have the doubts that we all have? The insecurities that we all have like, “Oh shit, is this going to end?” because we all have them. They all come in our mind. I know what I do. What do you do? 

[Omar Elattar] I outsource my insecurities. That’s one thing I’m a huge proponent of. How the hell do you reach out to President Clinton, I get nerves. So what I’m going to do is outsource it.

I have somebody else do it. There’s not an emotional association to it. Because if I do it, then I’ll get stuck in my head. Sometimes it’s not always the case, we tried to get Jim Carey on because he’s about personal development and stuff. But I’m very big on quick imperfect action.

My team knows this, it probably drives them a little bit nuts, but they love it too, when it works because they get to participate in enjoying all these cool experiences. We were driving one time and someone was like, you know, we should interview Jim Carey. No one’s doing that.

I’m sure he’ll be down or even for Zoom. Let’s just give it a shot. It was a brilliant idea. So right away we Googled his agency. Okay. William Morris agency. Okay. Who’s his agent? We can’t find this agent. Screw it. Let’s just call William Morris agency ring, ring, ring. I’m nervous.

Literally 30 seconds ago, we came up with the idea and boom, we’re already on the phone saying hi. Hi Williams. Margene, how can I help you? I was looking to see who Mr. Carey’s agent is. Oh yeah, that’s Blank’s name.

I said, okay, perfect. Are they in? And they’re like, yeah, absolutely. They’re in. So boom, within a minute of talking about Jim Carey in a car within a minute I’m connecting to his rep’s phone number. You see what I’m saying?

[Christina Lecuyer] I love it. I do the same exact thing.

[Omar Elattar]. You cut through the bullshit. Cut through the shit because if I don’t do that, what’s what’s the alternative. Oh yeah. That would be cool. Let me think about it.

[Christina Lecuyer] I did the exact same thing to have Danica Patrick speak at my event. One time I got all the way to her agent, like four times I thought she was going to say yes, then they finally said no, but like a lot of people, I think that would stop you.

I’m guaran-fucking-teeing you she’s going to be on the podcast at some point in time. I don’t care how long it takes. I play the long game. I’ll fucking make it work and I’ll figure it out. I’ll tell her, I’ll be like, “Oh, hi, remember me? I’ve emailed you like four times. I’ve actually emailed you probably 25. I’ve talked to your agent three times on the phone.”

[Omar Elattar] Yeah. And you know, what’s funny about that is that things change. So like for example, one thing I do, and I mentioned this inside of my courses, my training is that like.

If we ever get to know, just be polite and elegant, even with our sales team and all that, we’re not pushy at all. That’s what I love about Tony’s. I don’t know if you’ve had experience with Tony sales reps. A lot of them are like really nice people to the point where you’re like, okay, here, take my credit card.

They’re just helpful. They’re kind people. If you’re just kind, for example, this is one of my strategies. So quick tip, whether it’s a prospect or whatever that you’re reaching out to interview. If you reach out and they say, no, I say, “Okay, no problem. Thank you so much for getting back to me.” Uh, is it okay if I circle back with you in a few weeks or a few months or whatever. You’ll be blown away at how many times, if you’re just polite like that and they’ll say, “Yeah, sure. Absolutely”. And then you message them again in a couple of weeks or a couple of months.

I mean, COVID has been going on for almost a year now. Right?We’re all kind of used to it. Do you have your mask? I have my mask. You have your mask? It’s like time will fly by anyways. So now when you circle back on the email thread or on the DM thread or the text thread, it’s going to show that you asked for permission to follow up and they’re going to see that you were polite and kind.

So they’re more likely to be like, “Yeah, sure.” By then you’ll probably have more guests. You’ll have more viewership. If you’re looking at life as success or fail and it’s black and white, you’re going to emotionally drain yourself. You got to play the long game and go, okay, cool.

But if I don’t get them now. I’ll get them later. Absolutely. If you play that long game, it’s only a matter of time.

[Christina Lecuyer] I think the one thing that you and I probably do, and I encourage everyone listening to take an ear on is the fact that I will follow up and you do follow up. I think most people, once they hear a no, they’re like, Oh, it’s never going to work.

They never follow up. I remember I had J. Pat Johnson, the author of the one thing book speak in my mastermind. Yeah, he’s a great guy, but you know what he told the mastermind. He said, the only reason I’m on is because Christina reached out in February. I told her to get with my agent. She got with my agent.

Then when my agent said to email back in a month, she emailed back within a month. Then when I asked or she asked for certain times, I gave her my times, and she worked with my times, which were four months in the future. 

And I’ve circled back for making sure the four months in advance worked and he’s like, most people are not willing to jump over a hurdle and you jumped over 17. 

So that’s why we’re here today and we’re still, and we still messaged back and forth still to this day. Like he’s a great guy, but at the same time too, I think most people would not have even sent the message to my assistant because they would have got lazy and stopped. “Oh, he’s never going to say yes. Anyway, I won’t even message the assistant.” 

[Omar Elattar] Right. It’s true. The same is true for when I was younger in my early twenties. A lot of the guys see a pretty girl, you’d be blown away at how many pretty girls don’t get hit on because no guys have the guts to even hit on her. You know what I mean? I don’t mean to be inappropriate with the hit on them

Yeah, whatever it is. When I used to work for Rob at the Fantasy Factory and got to tour all over the country with Rob Dyrdek, a lot of people might know him.

He had the number on MTV. He had three shows on MTV. Huge. He’s got the Dyrdek machine. I’ll never forget it. My first day I was kind of like his assistant. So the first day, I walk into his office and he’s like, “Hey man, congrats, you made it.” I was like, “Thanks man.”

He was like, “You ready to take over the world?” And I was like, “Yes, sir.” He goes job number one, get me a Subway sandwich exactly how I order it. So he wrote down his exact Subway order.

I still remember it. So that would be it. So I’d go to Subway and I’d go take his order. I’d come back and, and then, and then, you know, we eat or whatever, and I would just get so many little gems of wisdom and he told me, “Do you know, why you’re here?” And I was like, “Why?” And he was like, “Because you applied.”

He goes, “most people would love to be in your position to be my assistant”, not from an ego place, but he was like, “most people would love to do this, but I guarantee you more people applied to McDonald’s than the Fantasy Factory.” And he said, “Do you know why?” I said, “Why?” He said, “because most people don’t believe they’re worthy.”

[Christina Lecuyer] Hmm. I understand that my whole messaging is that you are worthy. That is the reason why I wake up every morning is for every human being to be confident and know their purpose and believe they’re worthy to live a life that they absolutely freaking love and the prereq to being worthy is being willing to run.

[Omar Elattar] A lot of people have opinions on the leadership in this country and leadership all over, but a lot of people want to complain, but they don’t want to do the work of getting an office. They want to hold up a sign and that’s their political contribution on this planet. 

Don’t get me wrong. I understand the value in that and do your thing, but it’s probably not going to be as impactful as you going through the trenches that a lot of these people have to put themselves in positions to get elected, to put themselves in a position to make decisions. That’s a fact, there’s no politician in history that does something, everybody agrees with on the spectrum. 

Even when hiring people, you know, they don’t necessarily hire the best human being on the planet possible to be the president of the United States or the best engineer for the company or the best thing.

You can only hire the best of who applied, but you’re not applying, it’s over you. Les Brown has this thing where he says, “Most people don’t write a book because they worry that it won’t sell. That’s not your job. Your job is not to sell the book, write the book.” Amen. Don’t write the book, do your part and trust the universe. If you do the subject, the universe will take care of the predicate. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Like the sports analogy. You miss all the shots you never take. Right? It’s exactly the same. I love what you said right there. How you picked up so many words of wisdom from Rob coming from a former professional athlete background, golf background, and then getting into the corporate side of golf. The number one key to my success is I was always around people who were better than me. That’s how I learned to play golf within three years, going from never touching a club to winning the first three tournaments I ever played to getting a scholarship. That was how it happened in three years, because I was playing with people who were the best and I had never done it before.

Then also in my corporate career, I have clients who are billionaires, millionaires, all over the place. I wanted to be a sponge around them. I just wanted to listen to everything that they had to say. And that’s obviously one of the reasons why now in coaching, I’m so good at what I do is because I have such a vast background from those who I’ve been around.

Sitting and having lunch with Rob Dyrdek when you’re, what were you 20 years old?

[Omar Elattar] Yeah. 20.

[Christina Lecuyer] 20-years-old. Oh my God. Like that life experience in itself, whether you were getting paid $15 an hour and going to get a sandwich that will fast forward your life, like quicker than anything else, right?

[Omar Elattar] Yeah, absolutely. And I learned so much from Rob. I would literally be in meetings where like MTV, like head executives would come in and I’d like, seat them. Then Rob would ask me, “How do they live? What’s their energy? Are they chill? They looked at how many people.” So Rob would gauge it. And based on that, Rob would do crazy things. There’d be a meeting and of course I’m a fly on the wall. I don’t say anything. I just take notes or whatever, but Rob would be in meetings and like most executive meetings  people sit at a table, talk about ideas.

Rob would get up with all these professional executives, right? Like they’re all sort of Rob would have like a jacket, some DCS, like Rob is exactly the same on the show as in your life. Exactly the same. Literally. I know people say that. He’s exactly the same, like literally the camera on or off. I don’t know how he’s exactly like that all the time.

One thing I learned from Rob, he doesn’t schedule any meetings before 1:00. 

[Christina Lecuyer] I’ve actually heard that from Chris Harder. 

[Omar Elattar] Yeah. He doesn’t schedule any meetings for one. Um, and he has a lot of little rules that he advises by and he only takes X amount of meetings a day. 

[Christina Lecuyer] And so in a certain circle, right? Like he doesn’t go outside a radius. 

[Omar Elattar] Exactly. And, also he only takes like four meetings a day. So he thinks of things in terms of like, for chunks of time of day. But most people don’t do that, but you can take care of 20 chunks of things in a week, but most people juggle the 20 things in a week and only get like four done.

Rob is very good at compartmentalizing his madness, but also decisions have to be made by the end of the meeting. There’s no okay, we’ll talk about it. And circle back tomorrow night. We’ll have a block of time. We can go wherever we want, but decisions will be made.

They may not be perfect, but decisions will be made by the end of the meeting. But Rob would like to get up in the middle of meetings and he’d walk around the room and pace. He’d take his hat and he would turn into a visionary. He would just put the executives in a trans because he’s not at a table.

So they would double their budgets or triple their budgets or let them get away with branding his businesses, like inside of the car. Like he would just do so many things because he was able to be so energetically crazy. He can get away with things like meetings with executives, like I’ll even tell you a lot of things.

He would make them wait sometimes so that they get a little nervous because believe it or not even executives get nervous on the celebrity thing that doesn’t go away. He knew he had celebrities, so he would know how to, not from a bad place. For example, lunch or the Lunchables CA team came in for a negotiation for sponsorships. And so he would intentionally make them wait a little bit, or, or, there’d be like a waiting room where in the room and he’d have photos with all these like world leaders. So they would create this like thing. So by the time they walked in the pre-frame right he would do a lot of little, little nuances like that, that I just picked up and it was blown away.

I mean, the guy’s creative, he’s an energetic genius. He’s not, and he will be the first to tell you, he’s not necessarily book-smart, he’s energetically smart and knows how to get the technically smart people around them. 

[Christina Lecuyer] I love that. I love it so much. I think it’s so amazing how most people are just not willing to put themselves in that situation.

So if you take one thing from this podcast today, which I’m sure you’ll take a thousand, because we gave so many tidbits like finding your purpose, deciding it’s your turn, talking about like greatness, following your purpose and your passion and be willing to, basically eat shit for a really long period of time.

Take that being around amazing human beings is one thing that I am just so grateful that I’m able to do is just put myself in a very uncomfortable situations all the time where I’m like, “Well, I probably don’t belong here, but who gives a shit because I’m gonna walk away with it, something completely different.”

Ilearn so much. I just want to be a sponge around awesome people. So last question before you tell everyone where they can find you, where they can like absorb every ounce that you’ve put out on YouTube and podcasts and all the things. 

The question I have for you is, is there a decision in your life that you have made that you were afraid to make that either turned out better than you thought? Or it was a shit show, but you learn something from it? 

[Omar Elattar] Uh, yes. There’s been a lot. Hiring an assistant was huge. There’s so many times in life and business God, and like you, you try to anticipate the future, but it’s, and this always happens and I’m sure you can relate to this where like, say you’re stuck or there’s a bottleneck in some area of your business or your life. 

Then you think like, “Oh, maybe I should, I don’t know, whatever, hire an assistant.” You just don’t do it, because you think you’re more complex than they are, and then you do them and you’re like, “Oh, that was easy.” Every business thing that will stop you is always a little easy thing that you’re just not doing because you’re emotionally burdening yourself with the assumption that it’s way more complex than it is, but hiring an assistant, like believe it or not was one of the things.

At the time, I think it was like $20 an hour or something and I paid her full time. This was a while ago. But that was scary to do a couple thousand dollars a month on a vehicle. Am I being lazy? I mean, I could do it right. Like playing those emotionally guilt games, but hiring people was scary cause you’re committing to give my butt, but then I did that and it freed me up and we made like five times more in like the first three months.

I was like, “Oh, why was that?” We’re so limited by our assumptions. I think a lot of us emotionally have the bias that taking scary steps is not going to work. When in reality, most of the time it works. Like not always, but most of the time, and if it doesn’t work exactly, then something else will happen.

And it wasn’t my system. Thanks be to God. I don’t know how God has given me some of the most amazing people to help and support the mission. I personally believe it’s because I believe I’m doing God’s work. And so God said, “I love those people in the army to support his cause.”

That was scary. That was a tough decision to invest thousands of dollars month after month, for somebody to help me, but it ended up being great. But even if it didn’t, and I’ve had many times where I’ve invested in very expensive masterminds. Some have been phenomenally great, some haven’t but overall you get something from the experience. I know it sounds weird, but like in a worst case scenario, you learn how to not run a mastermind.

If you join one, that’s not hot. If you join one, that’s amazing. Like, Oh my God, now I can help my clients with this new wisdom. Or now I spent over six figures, multiple six figures over the last couple of years and investing in Tony Robbins, personal development and masterminds and coaching, you know, all this different stuff for me and my team.

Most of it’s been amazing. But even the ones that haven’t, there’s always something I can get from it in some capacity, in some way. So I think not being afraid to give money has been huge. Then also, and this may be kind of a separate on a weird energetic tangent, but even when I was broke, Like my, my ex-girlfriend, she used to laugh, but she was cool about it when I was just starting and I’d have maybe a thousand bucks as you’re building the business, you go through tough times and I didn’t have a lot.

I remember I wouldn’t have much, or I’d be overdraft on my credit cards, but I’d have some cash. And I go to say I’m in a nice area, whatever, like for energy, like I’m in a nice place by the beach. Oh, find a janitor. I’ll just give him like a hundred bucks. And by doing that, even though technically it’s not responsible and blah, blah, blah. The way they light up inspires me to be more of a blessing because it means the universe. I see people in their fifties and sixties and seventies sometimes at luxury upscale places, and they’re taking out the trash or doing all this stuff and I respect them tremendously.

But man, at that age, that’s gotta be tough. So to be able to be a blessing and give them that. And I, and I’m not saying this to like boast, I’m saying it because like it’s really energetically lifted me and I encourage people to do that. You know, I even have games with myself where I try to compliment one stranger every day, in a meaningful way, not BS.

“Hey, ma’am I love your jacket.” “Hey, ma’am I love your sweater”. You don’t know how many people out there are suffering. Because a lot of people say, you know, “Oh, I’ll give when I have”, but like Tony says, “if you wouldn’t give him a dime out of a dollar, you’re not going to give a hundred out of a thousand.”

You’re not going to give a million out of 10 million. If you don’t get what little you do have. So a decision to be a blessing, it inspires me cause I’ll give it to the lady or man or let’s say they’re selling flowers on the side of the road or whatever it is.

I bless them with the biggest bill on the planet. Bless them with that and they light up, “Oh my God, thank you so much.” And they start crying at you. For me with that data at that time, it would inspire me. I’d be like, man, I want to be more of a blessing. I feel blessed to be a blessing and I would feel a divine connection.

So I know it’s kind of a parallel of the same thing, but like giving of what you have. Even if you’re scared to invest in yourself or scared to give to those in need, somehow it just always comes back. It’s the same door you give is the same door you receive through.

If you want to receive through a wider door, you have to give through a wider door. And so I think for me, those have been the decisions that have really shifted me. Changing my life is not being afraid to give no matter the insecurities inside. And you know, when you give you truly receive, I truly believe, and I know that sounds generic.

[Christina Lecuyer] Oh, it sounds like a hundred percent. The honest to God truth. I’m shaking my head, like, Oh my God. Yes, yes, yes. I a hundred percent believe it. God, I’m so excited.

[Omar Elattar] Rob Dyrdek because a lot of people hear the stories that did work out. Right? You have to know that even though I’ve done all these amazing interviews and all that, I have hundreds, hundreds, way more knows, way more rejections, way more people that didn’t respond to emails. I had way more sleepless nights.

I had a cry in the shower. The amount of shit I ate and I would just pray and pray. I just kept the faith that kept the fit. Please, God, please, God. I remember, I’d be like, man, how am I spending money on overdrafting, my credit cards, trying to inspire people and I can’t afford it. Literally I wouldn’t have food or I wouldn’t have gas to get to interview. I was just like, please God, please God. Somehow or another, I just kept wiggling in the cocoon. And God would see me keeping the faith, God would allow blessings to show up. Like I just went to Vegas.

My intuition told me to go to Vegas. So if there’s anything I’ve learned at this point is I don’t question my intuition. I saw this photo. Yeah, exactly. I’m relaxing at Bay. My energy just said, go to Vegas and it’ll take you to the next level. It wasn’t literal. Like I didn’t literally hear God’s voice saying that, but I just energetically felt and I don’t gamble.

I don’t drink, I don’t do drugs. I don’t do any of that. I’m going to close. I don’t do any of that. I just love the energy of Vegas. I love the shows in Vegas, all that. So I had a great time, relaxed, and smoked a cigar for the first time in a while. Probably not the healthiest, but come by the pool just soaked it in and wrote in my journal and just enjoy it.

Had some great food, met some great people. At the last second, right before I’m heading back to the airport. I’m waiting. And who’s like right next to me, David Goggins and I literally, and so I connect with Dave. We started talking to tell him about the show. He’s like, “Yeah, I’ll do the podcast.”

He gives me his personal email, his contact info. We connect, we’re talking about waiting for the Uber. I get in the Uber. As I’m going back, I’m looking out the window and I’m looking at the sky and I’m like, man, thank you, God, because I know at this stage, like there’s been so many things from the Tony Robbins scene to Wolf of Wall Street that at this point I know it’s not a coincidence. 

I know that in some way, God is kind of all those prayers and late nights that I kept wiggling through the cocoon, I was like, all right. Cause you were patient. I mean, how the hell do you run into David Goggins in Vegas at the last minute, before an Uber, after your intuition randomly told you to go to Vegas that you went to on a whim in the exact same location.

And he had a mask, we have masks on. And he was like right there and he was free. I’ve had that happen so many times in my life that I just know that there’s someone else who’s coordinating it. I just placed my order and God delivered.

Sometimes like the best entrées in restaurants, it takes a little longer to deliver the new light. But when it does exactly what it’s meant to be. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Oh, my gosh, I am so obsessed. I love it. I saw that photo and I love the story behind it. So now we know. So for people to go see the photo, which is on your Instagram, tell us where we can connect with you and tell us where we can find you, all the things. Work with you, all the things.

[Omar Elattar] Absolutely. Absolutely. First off, thank you so much, Christina, for having me on the show and I respect what you do tremendously. I’m happy to be involved with you and your audience. And I believe that people that invest the time, energy, money, and everything with you will not only get what they want, but get much more than that.

So thank you for what you’re doing in the world. And I mean that. I haven’t done a podcast in like two months, so the fact that I hopped on, I feel like Jay Papasan, I understand where he’s coming from. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Right. I love your persistence and  guide kindness and grace.

[Omar Elattar]  So yes. If people want to connect with me, they can find me on Instagram at @Omar_TheRockstar.

I’m sure I can give you links. You can plug in the show notes for sure. The channel on YouTube is the Passionate Few by Omar and just search the Passionate Few, enjoy the interviews. We have a bunch of teaching content out, a bunch of stuff for free. We also have paid programs and consulting.

If you guys are interested in that, you can shoot me a DM. And, uh, if you shoot me a DM at @Omar_TheRockstar as to what you want to learn or what questions you have, we’ll hook you up with a special rate if you mentioned that you came through Christina, so you can do that as well. And one last gem just for my intuition summit to share.

There are a lot of people who are listening to this. I hope you guys got tremendous value and I’d love to hear and I know Christina would love to hear, so please share it with her. And like subscribing, thumbs up to her stuff so she can grow even more. I want to share how I got to work with Rob as a parallel of how I’ve done a lot of things.

A lot of people have found momentum in what they’re doing. When I first reached out, it was because I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I was sort of stuck in my life. And so in college, when I was like 20, 21, I wrote down a list of all the places I wanted to work. And it was listed like 50 places and they were all skateboard companies.

I grew up as a skateboarder, as my passion in life is my first love. I still do it till this day. I still love it. I will do it for many years to come willing, but I wrote down all these skate companies and I applied to about. Half of them. And the next couple of days, I only got emails back from like two or three of them.

I got one interview with a skateboard company. When I went to interview for the skate company, I didn’t get the job, but I watched how you can interact with failure and make a decision to hold your energetic space and not let failure to find out how it opens up opportunity.

Watch this last jump. So I did the interview, his name’s Andrew Schusterman, and he changed my life because I didn’t get the job and he emailed me back. “Hey Mark, thank you for coming. Unfortunately, we decided to go with somebody else, but thank you so much for your time.” At the time I had just gotten into Zen Buddhism and I don’t consider myself a Buddhist, but I adhere to a lot of Buddhist philosophies and theologies.

I’m a Buddhist. By the way, it’s not a religion. It is a theology. So you can practice those things, no matter what religion you are, just a little caveat. But I had responded saying, “Thank you so much, Andrew, for letting me know and communicating. I’m so happy that you guys found the right person for the job. Please let me know what I could do to get better and I’m happy to even intern for free or give out ideas to help support.” It was like a marketing position; totally free just to show my value. If anything opens up in the future, keeping in mind, this was my response to the rejection.

So watch this, Andrew wrote me back this email saying, “Wow, thank you so much for being mature about it. I’ve never heard somebody respond so positively to a message. You know what, man? I think I have a cool opportunity for you. I’ll circle back soon”. I said, “Wow, Andrew, thank you so much.” I thought nothing of it two weeks went by and I got an email from Rob Dyrdek at the Fantasy Factories team saying, “Hey, Omar, we heard you were looking for a marketing position to help out. Andrew spoke very highly of you. Would you be free to come for an interview?”

I went for an ASU, nailed the interview. And for the next year and a half, got to work with Rob. Travel, all Rob guts, travel all over the country. All expenses paid, got to go to Nike headquarters, hang out with the top professional skateboarders in the world, and go on tour.

That began my journey of seeing what was possible all because of how I made a decision to respond positively to rejection. Imagine if when you said you didn’t get the job, I didn’t reply. There would be no, Rob, there would be no traveling. My mind wouldn’t have expanded to know how to talk to high level people.

There would be no show. There would be no podcast. There would be no money. There would be no six figure months that blew me away. That the trickle of all that started because in the face of rejection and when I had nothing, I made a decision to respond positively and that changed the whole trajectory.

So no matter what happens in the universe, you remember life is more about how you respond than what you did. It’s like ping-pong. You can’t control how they hit, but you can control how you hit back. So I just want to share that last gem, because I know people listening may have had success or maybe out of a bottleneck, but just remember it’s how you respond.

So that opens things up down the road and it will always be better later than sooner. So if you feel like it’s not happening, trust me is because it’s going to be even sweeter down the road. 

[Christina Lecuyer] Oh my God, this was so good. You guys, please share this because Omar, I don’t know how in the world you would possibly know me over all more, but if you do, please share this because everyone and their mother needs to hear this.

I’m so grateful for you. I’m so grateful that we connected. I’m so grateful that my husband played that podcast. And then I became obsessed. And I’m grateful for your graciousness to be able to join us on this podcast today. 

[Omar Elattar] Thank you, Christina. I’m one of the Passionate Few, and I look forward to doing a zoom with you as well that people can check out.

I love what you’re doing. I believe in what you’re doing. I’ve met your community. I met the people, the clients to work with and they’re amazing people. I think they’re a reflection of the people leading them. So again, I want to honor you and thank you. I don’t take this lightly, so thank you for helping support my mission and thank you for being one of the Passionate Few.

[Christina Lecuyer] Same same. Thank you. I appreciate it.

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